Moja snimka 11
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This year,
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we have a new performance in the compressor and pump side.
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but hopefully can also show something which is going on in the world
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and in our business.
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I want to invite normally Brittany
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from AMCA but due to some reasons
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she couldn't try in and so we changed something both
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positions.
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So the first presentation we had from Mikey Runwich,
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she is the boss of Brittany,
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he is the director of public.
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for education and advocacy
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at AMCA International,
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also responsible for what's going on in the region.
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He is 15 years old,
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also a mechanical engineer from the University of Colorado,
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when I arrived informed.
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And I would say since he started at AMCA,
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he also knows a little bit about the European.
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fan regulation and fan business and a lot of stuff but the
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title today is updating what's going on in the US and fan
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recognition in our 3KD spirit.
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Thank you very much.
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So when Brittany and I put together a couple of presentations for EMOT,
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we were really anticipating that we were part of a larger group of fan presentations
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that others would be covering the US or the European or what's going
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on in the Asian or that nature.
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So it turns out that we're the only two fan presenters.
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Unfortunately,
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Brittany took seriously ill just before the trip,
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and so I'll be covering those slides.
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And that's so you don't have to listen to me for a full hour.
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Christian Tabor is here from Big Ass Fans.
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And I've asked him to substitute for me for my slides so
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that you can have two different presenters for the next hour.
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So first of all,
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I wanted to thank everybody for making the trip,
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for attending this session,
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and dedicating part of your lives to learning a little bit more about what's going on.
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And there's Brittany.
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Hello,
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Brittany.
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She's very,
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very sad she cannot make it.
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This would have been her first overseas trip in her life,
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so she's very sad.
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Anyway, so what we're going to cover today is a little bit about the
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background of how U .S.
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energy regulations and energy codes are structured.
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Our federal product regulations are promulgated
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by the federal agency,
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the U .S.
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Department of Energy,
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but the energy codes for buildings,
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for facilities,
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have a very strong influence on what are considered ban regulations in
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the United States.
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Then we'll talk about what I call the Fan Efficiency Regulation Unification
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Project.
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It's a long word,
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long phrase,
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but it'll have a very specific meaning and then status and time.
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So in terms of background,
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The federal federal regulations are run by what used
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to be called the Appliance and Equipment Standards Program by U .S.
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Department of Energy.
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Under the current presidential administration,
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it's been reshuffling.
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They totally eliminated the Energy Efficiency and Renewable
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Energy Office into some other department that I can't
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remember the names of,
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but minerals or something along those lines.
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But it's not energy efficient at all.
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So maybe someday they'll reorganize again.
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For product regulations,
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these are regulations for which manufacturers and importers are held
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responsible.
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So they're the ones who have to comply with the regulations.
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They're the ones who get fined with them and follow the regulations.
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So regulations focus on manufacturers
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and importers.
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Energy regulations are .
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So you'll see references
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to CFR section number six.
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So the Code of Federal Regulations is a mammoth publication.
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It's all electronic.
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But anyway,
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so regulations are in the Code of Federal Regulations.
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One of the values of a federal regulation is
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that they preempt state regulations and energy codes.
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So federal regulations...
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displace any other previous requirements,
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and any new requirements at the state level have to follow the
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federal regulations.
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Some states actually have state regulations that mimic the federal
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regulations for their own particular reasons,
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but in general,
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the value of a federal regulation is that there's only one regulation
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for the country,
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not 15 different state regulations.
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So federal preemption is a good thing.
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There are four parts generally to a federal efficiency regulation.
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There is a test procedure.
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The test procedure is a standalone federal regulation.
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And it defines the metric for which the minimum energy
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performance has to be.
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expressed as are represented.
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It also describes the method of test and the methods
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by which calculations are made to compute the metric for
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random differences.
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So it defines the metric,
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the method of test,
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and the method of calculation and how the values will be
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represented,
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the number of significant digits,
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how to rerouting them.
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Another part of our federal
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regulation is the certification.
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part where you talk about what parameters have to be filed in an
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online database and how frequently and any particular labeling
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requirements if there are any.
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And then also the last part is the surveillance part,
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which talks about enforcement procedures and fines.
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Fines can be considerable,
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$350 per day in your product
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that is not following the regulation from the date at which the infraction started.
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So if somebody gets caught violating the test procedure or the energy standard,
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you know,
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five years later,
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then they can be fined $350 per day per product since
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the day that they started putting that product on the market.
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out of compliance with the regulations.
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So fines can be millions of dollars in some cases.
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Product regulations are carried into energy codes.
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They're not completely independent.
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We have,
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and I'll talk about this in a second,
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in the United States we have what are called Model Energy Codes.
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These are published by ASHRAE and International Code
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Council, ICC.
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They're separate and somewhat related,
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but part of the federal regulations are embodied in energy
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codes.
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So my own state energy codes,
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these are codes by
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which system designers,
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consulting engineers...
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specifiers have to pay attention to,
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contractors are being held responsible for some parts of the codes,
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and facility owners are responsible.
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So these are like building codes,
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but for energy.
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And there are some factors like fire and life safety codes,
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energy codes,
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building codes.
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You know,
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so when you do a construction project in the United States,
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there's different bodies of codes that you have to be compliant with.
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Energy codes is one of them for many of the states.
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Generally,
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ASHRAE 90 .1 is the energy
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standard published by ASHRAE.
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It's also co -authored by the International Illuminating
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Society, IES.
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And it's an ANSI accredited standard.
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It's written in code enforceable language.
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It's an ASHRAE standard,
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but they rewrote it so that it reads like an energy code.
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And then there's also the International Energy Conservation Code,
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IECC.
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Generally,
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these codes are updated on three -year cycles,
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so they have standing committees that are continuously considering
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updates and changes to these model codes,
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and then they republish them roughly every three years.
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Individual states,
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if they have an energy code,
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they don't all have them.
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If they have an energy code,
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many of them adopt one or two of one or both of these model codes,
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and they may tailor them to their specific climates or construction practices.
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So even though a state might adopt the International Energy Conservation Code,
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you have to pay attention to if they make any particular changes to
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make it more or less stringent.
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than what's in the model code.
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That's why the word model is in the code.
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It's a model,
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but you don't have to follow it exactly.
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As I mentioned,
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there are different conditions are in place in different states.
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So there's one,
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several states have
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adopted an energy code that are earlier than 2013,
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and they're currently in force in their state.
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Some states have no energy code at all.
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Some states have what's called home rules,
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and they allow the cities within the states to adopt their own codes.
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So it gets very,
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very fractured when you get down into what I call jurisdictions
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for code compliance.
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Some states have their own code.
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They don't adopt a mild code.
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they actually have their own energy code California is one of them the
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most dominant one and then they update it on three -year cycles as well with
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their own processes that are apart from ASHRAE or the international program.
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So that's a little bit of background on the
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difference between product regulations and energy codes.
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With fans,
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it's even more complicated.
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When we started considering how to regulate fan efficiency in
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the United States,
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it was in the 2008,
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2009,
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2010 timeframe.
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At the same time that ISO was constructing the 12759
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fan efficiency standard of ISO,
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which led to the fan motor efficiency.
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grade FMEG metric.
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One of the precursors to FMEG is the
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FEG metric,
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the fan efficiency grade metric,
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and the United States fan manufacturers
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wanted an FEG,
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not an FMEG,
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because they didn't want to have anything to do with motors on drives as part of their fan efficiency
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calculation.
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So FEG was adopted early into
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the ASHRAE 90 .1 energy code in 2013.
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So between 2010 and 2013,
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when ISO is doing 12759,
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and is doing a standard called ANCO 205 for FBG,
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ASHRAE adopted FBG,
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2013.
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And there's a typo in that table,
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it should be 2016,
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not 26.
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You make an error in a slide presentation and
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it just lives forever.
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And I'll talk about this a little bit later,
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but the Department of Energy started a fan efficiency rulemaking in
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2011.
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So while ASHRAE was considering FEG for 90 .1,
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the Department of Energy said,
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we're going to create a fan product efficiency
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regulation similar to how the
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European Commission did for EC327,
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okay?
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Europe finished right around the time we were getting started.
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And in 2013,
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the DOE published a document called the Framework Document,
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which let the public know what their early thinking was and what a fan
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regulation would look like.
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And in that document,
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they rejected FEG and they rejected FMG.
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Okay,
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they rejected both methods.
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And so that left the fan industry to develop a new metric.
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And long story short,
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short story long,
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however you want to see it,
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we came up with the Fan Energy Index,
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FEI,
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in 2015.
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And then,
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again, I'm going to get ahead of myself here,
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but the FEI metric was later adopted into ASHRAE 90
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.1 to replace FEG starting in 2019.
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So we went from 2013 to 2019,
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completely different metrics in the energy codes.
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So we had about six years during which states were
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adopting a metric that was already dead in
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2013.
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So that's going to lead to some problems down the line.
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Generally for,
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I'm not going to explain the FEI metric,
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we've done this numerous times,
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but just trust me to say that the
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minimum energy performance level is an FEI metric.
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And the energy codes was 1 .00 for constant
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speed bands and 0 .95 for variable speed applications.
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They felt that credit was necessary for VFD
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applications because at full speed you're getting an energy penalty from the VFD.
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So they got credit for that.
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you know a small product for that uh for rearview applications the size
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range for these uh energy codes uh is at 0 .75
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kilowatts on the small and up to 150 horsepower uh
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on the higher side okay some fans don't are rated with
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electrical input power like the external rotor motor fans right so they have a their
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requirement is 0 .89 kilowatts for their minimum size okay
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so this is what
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we have to deal with in the United States for fan efficiency metrics at
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the state energy code level.
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The blue states have adopted a model energy
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code that includes FEI.
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Okay,
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so ASHRAE 90 .1 in 2019 or later.
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Yeah,
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2019 or later.
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And then the orange states like Texas,
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Arizona, Nevada,
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those are FEG states.
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And then the lighter,
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the darker gray states,
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Oklahoma,
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Arizona, Tennessee.
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These are states that have old energy efficiency codes
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that predate 2013.
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And then the white states have no energy code at all.
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So we've got four different cases spread around 50 different
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states.
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And it's kind of a mess.
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But this is what we're contending with.
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Now, in 2025,
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10 years after DOE decided on the FBI metric,
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it took 10 years for the states to have more
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states with FBI than FBG.
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So I tell people that looks like an ugly sweater you'd
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wear for a Christmas party.
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It's bad.
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So let's talk about what's going on with the product regulation.
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So federal,
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as I mentioned,
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while ASHRAE
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was considering FEG,
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and then published in 2013,
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that same year DOE decided not to use FEG
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in a rulemaking they started two years earlier.
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Between 2011 and 2023,
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a lot happened and nothing happened,
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okay?
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In other words,
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there was a lot of meetings,
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a lot of discussions,
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a lot of preliminary analyses.
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within the private energy rulemaking,
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some of it public,
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some of it private,
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but it took until 2023 for
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DOE to publish the test procedure.
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So 12 years to
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get a test procedure out the door.
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That test procedure did specify FEI as
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the regulatory metric and how to test for it and how to calculate it,
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and it stopped there.
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That same year,
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the state of California created their own product regulation
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for fans.
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So long story short,
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in 2017,
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the Department of Energy,
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under the president at the time,
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they said no more DOE regulations.
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So they stopped the fan rulemaking in its tracks.
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We felt at that time they were very close to publishing at least a test procedure.
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We actually petitioned DOE to restart the
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rulemaking and at least get the test procedure done so that there would be a consistent method
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of test for a fan regulation if any state were to do it,
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but they didn't start it.
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So California started their own rulemaking for a state
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chronic regulation in 2017.
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Even though they had a head start with what DOE had accomplished by then,
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it took them six years to finish their product regulation.
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The good news is that it used a DOE test procedure,
16:49
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because it has to,
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because it's federal preemption.
16:51
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So in 2023,
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significant developments were we have a federal test procedure with a metric and
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a method of test,
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and we also have a state product regulation,
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which not only included the testing,
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but a minimum energy performance standard,
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and also labeling requirements.
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So the fans had to have a label.
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And then the first,
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when it covers the regulation for the label,
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The font was so big that the labels would stretch across
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the diameter of the fan.
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And they didn't want to change it.
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They said,
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no, no, it's already done.
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We can't change it.
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So I had some of our members print out labels.
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Zealopic was one of them,
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right?
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
Print out labels and put them on your fans.
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He sent it to me.
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So then I sent the photographs to the California Energy Commission.
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I said,
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I'm willing to go public with this.
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Do you really want the public to see that you're requiring people to do this?
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He said,
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no.
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So they fixed it.
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I should show you the picture sometime.
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It's kind of fun.
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Anyway.
17:51
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So, 2023.
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Now, in 2024,
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things began to pick up.
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We have a different presidential administration,
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and they're going to get to the end of their administration,
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actually, when they started coming out with some new stuff.
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
They came out with the draft energy standard in January 2024.
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They gave industry three months to review it.
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Not a lot of time,
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
given the volumes of information that you have to process when
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you evaluate a federal standard like that.
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And it was actually pretty rough shape.
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There was a lot of fundamental problems with the DOE structure
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of the regulation,
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and their technical analyses were highly flawed.
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And they really were,
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
okay?
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
Trust me.
18:33
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
But they took our comments and other comments from other stakeholders,
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and they created a final regulation.
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
It was done.
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And so before a federal regulation is published,
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it undergoes what's called an interagency review.
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They said, all right,
18:48
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we're done, but we want other DOE or other federal agencies to review the
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regulation to make sure it complies with the regulations of other agencies.
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And that sat in that place
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for four months.
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And then when the next president took over,
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signaling a different regime change in how the DOE would treat
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regulations,
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the outgoing president's administration withdrew
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the fan rule and others that were in consideration.
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They withdrew it from interagency
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review.
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So it went nowhere.
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It stopped right there.
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And when they did that,
19:29
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
They have to do this with an official statement or an official document.
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And they said,
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all right, we're going to stop the rulemaking for fans.
19:38
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There's a lot of controversy.
19:40
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
But hey,
19:41
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individual states,
19:43
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
you can regulate fans.
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
And there's a lot of energy savings.
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
And if you wanted to use our draft energy standard as a basis,
19:51
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
go right ahead.
19:52
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
So that draft energy standard is in the public domain still,
19:55
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and it's very scary because,
19:57
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
as I said earlier,
19:58
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
it's highly flawed.
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DOE through fans to the walls of individual states to
20:04
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
create their own state rules.
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
AMCA
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We really,
20:12
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
the fan industry has already suffered through 13 years of
20:16
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
rulemaking within the DOE.
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
Two different metrics,
20:19
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
different state regulations now,
20:21
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
different state energy codes.
20:23
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
We needed some consistency in the fan efficiency world.
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
So what we did,
20:29
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and I'll talk about that in a second,
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is we worked with the industry stakeholders to create a fan regulation
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template.
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
at individual states.
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
Okay,
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it's called the Unification Project,
20:39
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
and I'll talk about that.
20:40
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So,
20:41
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you know,
20:42
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
we wanted all the wolves.
20:43
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
Okay,
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wolves, you can regulate fast,
20:45
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
but we all want to regulate them the same way.
20:47
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In 2026,
20:49
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so this was college in December,
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November, December,
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2025.
20:53
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And then in 2026,
20:55
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the first state picked up the model of the will,
20:58
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Rhode Island.
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and they expect to complete it maybe this year but
21:03
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meanwhile there's no enforcement of the test procedure so unfortunately
21:08
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
there's yes
21:14
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
I'm getting too much fun.
21:16
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
All right.
21:16
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
So as I mentioned,
21:17
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we did the fan unification project to update.
21:21
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It was called a model bill published by another organization,
21:24
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Appliant Standards Awareness Project.
21:26
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So we worked with that organization,
21:28
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an NGO,
21:29
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a consulting firm that works with the California investor -owned utilities like
21:33
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PG &E and Southern California and Edison.
21:37
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And then HRI,
21:39
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
which is the equivalent of Neuroment within the United States.
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
and another consulting firm Energy Solutions that does a lot of wave eight programs and
21:46
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Speaker 2 (Moja snimka 11)
state advocacy.
21:47
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
So we work with advocacy organizations,
21:49
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Speaker 1 (Moja snimka 11)
another trade association,
21:51
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my staff,
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and then members of AMGA,
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