meeting with the ministry 3

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Currently, we have T -Card Projects.
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That is providing the Temehkut technology,
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smartwatches.
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It provides offline version.
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So,
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you see, technology doesn't sit at one place.
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Now,
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before you proceed,
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I am not saying it
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was tied to the SD cards.
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We started,
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and like you rightly said,
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you will have a starting point.
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But as the technology and time evolve,
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you too should be speaking to that.
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And that's why I mentioned it in my statement.
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At the time,
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perhaps we were not thinking smart like you are.
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When we started mobiles in this country,
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it was analog.
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And even my senior Koto Bayou was using 33 times.
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Until 20 years ago
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when he adjusted to a smartphone.
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Am I right, senior Koto Bayou?
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The state of the earth was the ones that opened like this.
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So you see,
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you turn off.
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And those were the motor rollers.
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Yes, they were not open.
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You are on top.
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Just to tell you,
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so I agree with you.
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Yes.
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It cannot be limited,
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yes.
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At the point,
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at the starting of that thought and initiative,
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that was the starting point to see how we could domesticate
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or domicile the...
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lessons or whatever into those for children to be able to access
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it in any of the platforms but like you rightly said
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today you're coming up with some new innovation as we are talking developers
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are developing new technologies advancing in so many ways so
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you need to be responding to those that is the kind of thing i was saying but it cannot
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be limited to yes so that is the point
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i want to just add that we should not
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that also provides some sort of limitation that if
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we are saying offline only ends at the sd card
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then there's a limitation because i asked this question before if the technology
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of even the sd card how many people do you now see today using that
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if that also fades away which is also fading away yes what happens to us
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so again i've asked all these critical questions answer the questions here
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you are the technology people we only provide leadership
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The last time I checked,
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I only did ICT as a course to pass my
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university because the lecturer at the time knows me.
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So I did my best to avoid being embarrassed.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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Mr.
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Williams, I need to make sure
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that the context of our
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offline technology
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It's not being largely misrepresented,
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as you are
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saying. You see,
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our offline technology is not even
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based physically on only
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the SD cards.
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It works on laptops,
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on computers,
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on smart TVs.
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It works everywhere.
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However,
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the issue of
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these SD cards,
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Which signifies,
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which is one of these,
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signifies of this offline is
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mainly because the SDcast was the only,
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is the most common device
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that was used massively.
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So right now,
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even right now,
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we have iOS phones.
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You understand?
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That doesn't use SDcast.
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Most of the versions of
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our offline technology have been upgraded
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and changing according to how technology is advancing.
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And that was why,
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from the beginning of this engagement,
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we have been soliciting.
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We have been saying it from day one.
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There has to be a level
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playing ground for discussions and collaborations.
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The people feeding
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you information,
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from our understanding,
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were not even part of the project,
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doesn't even have knowledge of the project.
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And we were not consulted.
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And the people who we are in the project...
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So it is very important that all of us come together,
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not by speaking on
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the deficiencies or the abilities
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of our different programs.
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I believe,
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like the PS said,
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we are supposed to see a convergence point where
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we can come together.
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And we are even discussing two different interventions,
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two different platforms right now.
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The one we are proposing and the one that is already existing.
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And we as a team,
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as Pusho Mobile,
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have no single clue of what it
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looks like.
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The programs,
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only the format of those programs.
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So, in adapting,
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in adapting,
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in,
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in,
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that it is an integration point.
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So I believe we
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need to go back to the drawing board,
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check what we have missed and come
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with a level of
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understanding on what both
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parties are offering and how we can proceed.
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So, before,
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I will allow Dr.
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Janama to conclude on that,
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but the main point I'm trying to make here is that the
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platform from day one,
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we did not restrict access in any
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house. If you don't have access,
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those who had the access were not available to you.
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MULA is no longer here.
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You understand?
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So most of you were here when
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we were building all these capacities.
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The platform was fully handled over to Mopsi.
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They managed the back end.
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And when we finished our activities,
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we left.
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They continued it.
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When these guys were
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no longer there, we were called back to say,
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okay, come and build capacity.
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We wrote.
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Instead,
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invited us to come and build capacity.
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But when we come,
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they will say there is no funding to do any activity.
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We cannot leave our different jobs and different bases,
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come down here,
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build capacity for free and go on.
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So the issue
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here is not about the capabilities of the system.
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The issue here is alignment.
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We need to form an alignment.
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for us to move ahead quickly.
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I was speaking to my team a few days ago,
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and I told them,
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if from the onset of these issues
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that has been addressed today,
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that the science and technology recognized
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us as partners,
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the current management of TED recognized us as partners,
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we will not be having issues here.
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It looks like they are not really interested on
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what is already on the ground.
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And we know the challenges of doing new systems.
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There is no perfect new system.
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When you deploy it,
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you encounter issues.
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So if at this stage,
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after how many years of fixing
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operational issues on the island,
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you are building a new system or trying to migrate.
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a good developed ecosystem to another
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ecosystem, we are only
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complicating the sector.
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So what we need to do is understand
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your own path of intervention.
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Understand.
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If the platform
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that you have is well structured to
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fit your intervention,
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it is not a problem.
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The island Gambia can be fully integrated on
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the island Gambia.
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Now when you integrate it,
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you will now begin to ask yourself whether you want delivery modalities.
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Because right now you have
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a development stage,
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you have a testing stage,
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and you have delivery,
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and you have monitoring.
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There's a whole lot of stages
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to this process that is far beyond functionalities
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and how beautiful it is.
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What we need to do right
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here,
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that I have advised my team is today we can get to listen,
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see and understand better what the
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gaps and the
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new things, the new dynamics at play.
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Understand it and ask,
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okay, this is how we can,
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this is how we can support.
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If the ministry mandates us today,
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okay,
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the Ireland -Nambia platform hand it over to us.
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In 25 hours,
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I will hand over all the credentials.
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Sorry, yeah,
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give it.
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I don't think,
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I'm not going to do any action with this.
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I know maybe you are
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going to find it very difficult to understand,
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but the technical people do understand.
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We know we have two infrastructure here.
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We are talking about two infrastructure.
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We have the learning management system,
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and we also have the cloud -based app that is trying
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to control whatever is happening.
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Now, what we are saying,
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the point of convergence that I am suggesting here now,
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already the cloud -based server is there that
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we form as Moxie.
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The cloud -based
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server that we have,
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it can accommodate all the other learning
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management systems,
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including several dashboards.
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It has that capacity.
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Now,
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the point of convergence here,
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we are not eliminating them out.
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What we are saying...
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Since the island Gambia belongs to us,
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and we are going to maintain the name of island Gambia on the
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platform, there's no going to be any changes.
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The competency here is,
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let's bring the island Gambia to be posted on our flatbed
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south.
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Then the land could do.
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We can go with the,
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you know, that agreement with them,
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we ensure that we fully implement.
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We are representing the MOPSI.
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What we went through,
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we don't have to go back to that one.
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And we are expecting in 100 years,
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something that is sustainable is controlled by POPC.
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Five years is not five days,
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it's not five hours.
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We have the
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cloud -based server,
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we bought that one.
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Let's move,
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then the life continues with them.
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You can continue whatever agreement that you want to do with them.
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You can do whatever that you want to do.
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Then the I like them move to the platform,
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the life continues.
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Because otherwise,
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you know,
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what I'm seeing,
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You know, it may come back.
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You know,
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if Gambians don't take ownership of their innovation,
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sometimes they are always at mercy.
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This is not the...
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I travel a lot.
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I do not go to Europe or America,
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but Africa.
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I travel a lot.
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And most of my visits are educational -based.
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I'm taking the example of Rwanda.
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Most of the things that innovators
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brought to the country,
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they always make it local.
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They always make it national.
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IMS.
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You all know IMS.
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They learn from Gambia here.
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But they have domesticated.
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In a way,
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they are even doing most of the African countries.
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They are far ahead of Gambia.
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Because why?
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They domesticated.
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But we still now,
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Gambia here,
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we are in hands of the external.
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So that's what we should try to avoid now.
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As far as we are concerned,
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these are our pronouncements.
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to see how better we can come back.
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And I think,
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I think maybe you may have other better options,
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the technology,
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you may have better options.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
For me, the better option here is we already own a
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system.
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Now let's bring the island Gambia to that system.
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Then we can continue working on it to see how better we can.
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Because if they truly mean to support Gambians,
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I don't think there should be any reservation.
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Come here.
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They join me.
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We work as a team.
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I don't think there should be any reservation on that.
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That's my solution.
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Thank you.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
you want to say something before i come back yes so i was just um wanted
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
to like a little bit on what you're saying so i think again the
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
question should be not technical but how do we solve what the problem that
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
we have and the issue is we want to have a system that is
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used for um foundation learning and already have plan
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
island and be a platform and based on our understandings it has it
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
has been developed it has used to do the kobe and it has to work
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
So assuming that right now everybody is in agreement that there is no other system,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
that everybody is in agreement that we are going with the island Gambia.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
For me,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
what I'm saying,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
what I want to understand really is one,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
is there a big deal on your side?
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
to, one,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
transfer whatever capacity,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
like you said, because it's not only about the capacity,
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but also the platform.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Is it a big deal for you to transfer the capacity to the ministry so that we
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
won't be tied to you anymore in terms of sub -administration?
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Because like you said,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
it's very unfair that whenever the sub -administration goes down,
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
we call you on the support,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
wherever training is required,
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
we call you on for support,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
when we are not paying you anything.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Your contract is over.
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So,
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is that...
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
too much of a ask,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
is that possible or what are some of the hurdles that we might be facing?
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But the other thing is also,
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that is one thing,
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but it's not one thing that I think you made reference to.
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Are you saying that once this...
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Island Gambia platform is handed over.
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The only thing that we need to do
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is upload content,
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download content,
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make sure that it's accessible to people.
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So we don't need to know anything that needs to be done in terms of development,
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in terms of features,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
we might contract you or we might contract another passive to come up with this solution.
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But are you saying that even when you transfer the service...
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we will not be able to run on our own.
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That is, there are so many other things that we're trying to do.
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So I just wanted to respond to this too.
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Because the idea is how do we ensure that we move on,
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not just keep on going back to the past.
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So I know there's a lot of things that have happened.
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There's a lot of history.
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And for me, I'm not interested in most of the things that have happened.
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My interest is where are we at the moment and what can we do?
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
You want to respond to that?
17:14
S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Just two minutes.
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Let me respond to number one,
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the issue of migration.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We don't,
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
the platform belongs to MOPSI.
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And if we have a directive to
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migrate it to yet
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
another platform that
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
still belongs to MOPSI,
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
it is still MOPSI's property.
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We don't have a problem with that.
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However,
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
This issue of migration or
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
adaptation has been discussed
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in the wrong context.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
You don't
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migrate a functioning system carelessly.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Right
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now, migrating Island Gambia to a
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new system is not a challenge
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at all.
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
In fact,
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to be honest,
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it will be a relief.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
For us,
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because in 2023,
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
I have to put it on record,
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MOTI has not paid.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Okay,
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
maybe instead,
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contributing $8 ,000 during a few server
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
costs.
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
And I think UNICEF intervened around
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
2064 or so.
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Outside that,
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we have been dealing the cost of the maintenance.
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We have been...
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upgrading stands if the people are there they keep making recommendations do this we
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keep developing for free for them this
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
was here we need it this way we still adjust for free for them not outside
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
contractual activities so in
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
all these adjustments it was a
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surprise to us to now call us and say okay this
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and that and that and that and that it was like a very a very big surprise to us because we
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
were working with them
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
understand and all that and every other that was
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S… Speaker 3 (meeting with the ministry 3)
the initial initial activity initial
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impression that we got
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So it will even be a very big relief for us if
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you say, okay,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
migrate Ireland Gambia to your
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
server. We can do that easily.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We can go to the person and we'll do that.
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But however,
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it does not mean that when we migrate Ireland Gambia,
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we will give you,
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we will just give you our offline algorithm.
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That is one point that we made from the one.
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I can also confirm that most of these misunderstandings
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started from this offline issue because issues of
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these ASD cards and all that,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
this is a,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Gambia is not the only thing that we have implemented.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We as a company don't run platform,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
we do systems.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We have universities
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in Nigeria using our offline technologies.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Nobody is hearing any noise.
21:03
S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
But we also
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have our own process because the
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offline is not just the
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normal azegas in the market.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
They are constantly used.
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So there are modalities to
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
all these things.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
You cannot jump those modalities and say,
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
I'm from
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
the one, check our contractual engagements up until now.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We have never
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been contracted to do the offline algorithm for mobster.
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S… Speaker 2 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Let that be very clear.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Okay.
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I think understanding,
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Mr.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
Wu, your problem is what the EU has taken to that.
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You are concerned about what I have invested,
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
how would I get.
22:07
S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
You
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don't have a problem of handing over for them to migrate.
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But you have a concern with how are
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we going to be compensated for the work we have done.
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If,
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for example,
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
there is no problem in handing over or the migration or getting things that we
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migrate, but you are concerned with issues of the ID cards
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and other things,
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
I mean, that's a lot of work here.
22:41
S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
We can continue discussions.
22:42
S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
If you put
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something on the table that MOPSI cannot afford,
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
then you cannot afford it.
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If there's something that is negotiable,
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we'll negotiate.
22:53
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But what we are saying now,
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which you have agreed,
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that is MOPSI's property.
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That is the island gang.
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The online materials is MOPSI.
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S… Speaker 1 (meeting with the ministry 3)
You were contracted by MOPSI to work on that.
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The maintenance,
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you continue.
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And that is what we have been told.
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The cyber doesn't belong to Moxie,
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which we all agree now.
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We respect that.
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We recognize the effort that you have been doing.
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You know,
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I told you,
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I started this just briefly before I moved over.
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How do
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we make sure we can get what is possible to happen now and

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