copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC

May 12, 2026 01:23 · 21:04 · English · Whisper Turbo · 3 Đầu ghi
Bản ghi chép này hết hạn hôm nay. Tăng cấp cho lưu trữ vĩnh viễn →
Tập tin
Chỉ hiển thị
0:00
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Hello, who are we with today?
0:02
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I'm Nidal Alag.
0:05
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I'm born in Basra.
0:08
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I'm 59 years old.
0:12
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I spent most
0:17
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
of my life in Iraq and Baghdad.
0:19
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I finished my study primary,
0:22
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
secondary and university in Baghdad.
0:27
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay, so we're going to start with the questions today.
0:30
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
How did you criticize Saddam Hussein's power and
0:34
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
the way he controlled the country?
0:35
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Saddam Hussein,
0:38
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
he was dictator,
0:39
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
oppressor,
0:40
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
tyrant.
0:41
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
His
0:46
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
strategy killed anybody talked against
0:52
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
him or against his bad party.
0:58
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Because Saddam Hussein,
1:00
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I lost two of my brothers.
1:02
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
One of them,
1:05
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
he was 18 years old and second one just graduated
1:10
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
from university.
1:11
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
He picked up him from the
1:16
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
street and killed him.
1:20
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
even he didn't inform us about
1:24
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
him if he's died or he's still
1:28
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
alive at that time but after Saddam regime fall down
1:32
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
we knew he killed
1:38
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
him because he rejected to go to Gulf
1:43
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
War in 1990
1:48
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay.
1:48
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
What personality cult did you notice in his regime?
1:52
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Was he strict?
1:55
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Was he...
1:56
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Of course.
1:57
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
He's an oppressor and tyrant.
2:00
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I said that.
2:02
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Can you tell me more about Saddam?
2:06
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Oh my God,
2:07
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Saddam.
2:08
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Just imagine anybody
2:14
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
talked against him.
2:18
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
anybody even if he's not
2:22
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
adult like kids under 18
2:26
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
years old they he took the
2:32
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
security member lost
2:36
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
him of course from their school and beheaded
2:41
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
them after that he sent his
2:47
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Part party members to visit their family to check if
2:51
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
they still love Saddam or
2:55
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
against him.
2:56
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Just imagine that.
2:59
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And how did this affect your daily life?
3:02
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Did you grow up scared?
3:06
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Were you in fear?
3:08
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah, of course.
3:08
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
We scared from them when they visited us,
3:13
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
members of part party.
3:17
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I talked about my experience with
3:22
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Ba 'ath Party.
3:22
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
They came to us in order to check if
3:27
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
we put Saddam's picture on the wall or no.
3:31
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
If we are still with
3:36
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
him
3:40
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
and accept his politics or against that.
3:45
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Just in order let us...
3:49
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
take any speech against
3:54
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
him in order also kill us but we
3:58
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
try to protect ourselves by
4:02
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
saying he was a
4:07
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
good leader a good leader okay and what do you have to say
4:11
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
about the surveillance the secret police or the fear of
4:15
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
speaking in public
4:17
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah, as I said,
4:20
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
anybody talks against him,
4:22
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
he put,
4:25
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
even at university,
4:29
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
at school,
4:30
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
in the market,
4:31
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
anybody,
4:31
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
if they talked about him and other one heard
4:35
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
him, he's gonna write a report against this
4:39
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
person.
4:40
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And that means he's gonna
4:44
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
face a big...
4:47
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Sentence.
4:48
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Was there a lot of surveillance?
4:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah,
4:52
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
of course.
4:53
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Everywhere.
4:53
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay.
4:54
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Have you ever been arrested?
5:00
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah,
5:01
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I told you I lost my two brothers,
5:04
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
but not me because we scared from him.
5:08
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
We protect ourselves by keeping
5:12
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
our mouth closed.
5:16
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Can you tell
5:20
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
me about the situation?
5:23
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
How did this influence behavior about when
5:27
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
you guys were always surveilled?
5:30
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
and the secret police,
5:33
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
the fear of speaking in public,
5:34
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
how did this influence your behavior?
5:38
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Were you more private?
5:41
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
My experience in Korea,
5:46
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
as I was a teacher
5:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
at school,
5:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
after that professor at university,
5:54
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
we lived at that time,
5:58
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
everyone scared from others.
6:02
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Maybe if I talk some any word this person gonna
6:06
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Be against me and write a
6:10
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
report against me and I'm gonna lose
6:14
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
my life or my family one of my family so
6:19
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
we Left a lot
6:23
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
of people left Iraq at that
6:28
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
time
6:32
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
How would you perceive the way the regime revolved around
6:37
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Saddam Hussein?
6:38
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
We
6:43
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
suffered a lot from him.
6:45
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And he entered us to war with
6:49
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Iran.
6:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
After that,
6:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
entered Kuwait.
6:53
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
After Kuwait,
6:55
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Iraq entered.
7:14
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
In your opinion,
7:20
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
what was the role of school during the regime?
7:42
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
because the school is managed
7:46
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
by the people and teacher and manager
7:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
but there is a lot of corruption in it okay
7:55
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I'll just I would like you to tell me about the media
7:59
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
what news was shocking to you shock
8:04
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
me yeah
8:06
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I told you I lost my brother.
8:08
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
This is...
8:08
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
No, about the media.
8:09
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
About the media?
8:11
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah.
8:12
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
We don't have,
8:13
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
we don't have,
8:14
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
with Saddam regime,
8:16
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
he banned the internet and we don't
8:20
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
have cell phone.
8:21
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Just in media,
8:24
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
just we have at that time two channels.
8:27
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
No more.
8:29
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
He didn't allow us to have
8:33
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
satellite.
8:34
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay.
8:38
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
so now we're gonna go to concept two what were the
8:42
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
economic conditions like during the iran iraq
8:46
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
war the economic conditions during
8:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
the iraq iran war most of
8:55
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
people they didn't feel
8:58
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
the economic yeah with the economic because it's not
9:03
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
it was normal but after saddam entered
9:08
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
kuwait and iraq introduced
9:12
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
this suffered from the siege
9:16
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
most of teachers they
9:21
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
received every month one dollar their salary
9:25
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And the corruption everywhere.
9:28
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
This is during the Iran -Iraq war?
9:30
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
No, no,
9:31
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
after 1990,
9:33
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
when there was siege in Iraq.
9:37
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay,
9:39
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
but how about the Iran -Iraq war?
9:40
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Was there any differences?
9:42
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
We lost a lot of guys,
9:45
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
but about economic,
9:47
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
nobody suffered from that.
9:50
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay.
9:53
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
especially I lived in Baghdad and at that time I was
9:57
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
young
10:00
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
you don't remember so no i remember we lived a
10:04
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
good life okay it's not very
10:08
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
good but about security we can't
10:12
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
talk about against him but about economic i talked about
10:16
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
economic our salary the salary of workers
10:21
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
it was
10:24
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
It was okay?
10:25
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Not fair,
10:26
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
but it's not like after Iraq
10:31
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
entered siege.
10:32
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay.
10:33
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Do you know?
10:38
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Because you mentioned that you didn't
10:42
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
have any economic problems.
10:44
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Do you know anybody that experienced food or
10:48
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
medical shortages?
10:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
During Iraq -Iran war,
10:54
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
no, sorry,
10:55
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Iran -Iraq war,
10:58
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
no, there is no problem with the economic,
11:00
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I think.
11:02
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
But after that,
11:03
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
we suffered a lot,
11:04
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
all of us,
11:05
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
even medicine,
11:07
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
teacher,
11:09
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
engineering people.
11:12
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Did the regime portrayal of Iraqi nationalism
11:17
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
in relation to the army influence you?
11:23
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah, of course,
11:24
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
because if I don't,
11:28
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I didn't lost anybody in
11:32
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
the war,
11:33
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
my neighbor,
11:34
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
my relative,
11:35
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I lost a lot.
11:36
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And even other people.
11:39
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay.
11:40
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
How
11:44
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
would you describe access to education,
11:46
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
health care,
11:48
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
or housing under the...
11:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
It's declined,
11:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
it's declined.
11:52
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Education goes from hard down.
11:55
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Under the Ba 'ath party regime?
11:57
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah, Iraq is
12:01
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
the first country in the Arab Middle East in education.
12:05
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
It was from 1970 until Iran
12:10
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
-Iraq war.
12:12
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
But after that,
12:15
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
it's declined from up to
12:19
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
down.
12:20
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And corruption everywhere.
12:23
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And education,
12:25
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
health care?
12:27
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
And everything?
12:28
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah,
12:29
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
in education.
12:30
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
That's what I said.
12:32
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Did you experience favorism or exclusion
12:36
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
within the regime?
12:37
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah,
12:40
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
of course.
12:40
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
What emotions did you feel
12:45
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
during this conflict?
12:46
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I was young.
12:48
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Around my age,
12:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
it was like 14,
12:54
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
15,
12:55
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
like that.
12:58
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
There was explosion.
13:00
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I hide under the table.
13:03
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I thought I can protect myself.
13:06
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Was
13:12
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
it collective upheaval or shock trauma?
13:16
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
My
13:23
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
dad and my mom died
13:28
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
caused trauma.
13:29
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
What
13:36
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
effects did the war have with bombings?
13:45
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
death punishments etc etc members of
13:50
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
people of your family I know you said you
13:54
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
had two brothers that died because of the regime because of Saddam
13:58
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
but what effect how has
14:05
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
this affected your memory?
14:08
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Can you develop your emotions?
14:10
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah,
14:11
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
of course, until now.
14:12
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
When I think about my mom,
14:17
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
when there is happy days,
14:20
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
should go to the prison in order to check if maybe
14:25
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Saddam allowed to politics prisoner,
14:29
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
give them out
14:33
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
of prison in order to check that.
14:37
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
on happy day but unfortunately she's
14:41
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
back with tears until now I can't
14:46
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
forget her face
14:50
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
did
14:54
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
you feel frustrations anger trauma
14:58
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
yeah
15:00
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Of course.
15:00
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Sometimes I want to...
15:03
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
with a
15:09
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
loud voice in order to...
15:11
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
To yell?
15:13
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yelling.
15:14
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yelling is to say Saddam is
15:18
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
an oppressor man.
15:20
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah.
15:21
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Can
15:37
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
you tell me about one more situation where Axis...
15:41
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
to essential resources example water food electricity
15:46
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
was difficult to achieve you know yeah we
15:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
don't we don't have electricity we don't
15:54
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
have it after arab golf we don't have electricity 24
15:59
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
hours it's four four four we have sometimes
16:03
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
two four
16:06
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
electricity too we have electricity for
16:10
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
now and with the with
16:14
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
time it's four four we got that's
16:19
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
our situation and we can't even we can't
16:23
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
sleep in the night because the electricity off off
16:28
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
until now
16:37
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Was it difficult to achieve water
16:41
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
or food?
16:42
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Yeah,
16:44
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
it was a very difficult life.
16:46
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
It was a very difficult life.
16:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Have you
16:55
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
experienced
17:00
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
shortages and inequality?
17:02
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
What did you say?
17:05
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Why did you say something?
17:07
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
No, not enough.
17:10
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
how did you experience
17:15
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
shortages inequality
17:19
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
discrimination or even migration towards the
17:24
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
state if yes how did it go no
17:30
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
have you
17:35
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
found any techniques no um how
17:39
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
have the conflicts affected social relationship
17:43
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
and family life
17:50
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Saddam,
17:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
he's not governed,
17:53
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
just he was
17:58
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
governed Iraq.
17:59
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
His two boys,
18:02
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Qusay and Oday,
18:04
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
was governed Iraq and
18:08
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
abused anybody near to
18:12
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
them.
18:12
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
So any talent...
18:16
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
anybody he has a talent he he couldn't improve
18:22
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
his talent because they are against
18:27
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
any talent of any people did it
18:37
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
change did it affect your social relationships yeah of
18:41
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
course because uh anybody against saddam a
18:46
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
lot of people or saddam killed his
18:51
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
one of his family most of people they scared
18:55
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
to make a relationship with this family because
18:59
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Saddam was gonna do something
19:04
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
wrong with them.
19:05
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Did aspects
19:20
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
such as unemployment or migration affect you during the regime?
19:24
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Again.
19:28
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Did aspects such as unemployment
19:32
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
or migration affect you during the regime?
19:36
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Employment
19:42
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
No,
19:42
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
in the Sudan regime,
19:44
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
at that time we
19:49
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
can't get a job and working,
19:52
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
but it's not fair.
19:55
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
The salary is bad and most people left their
19:59
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
job with the government.
20:00
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Okay.
20:14
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
So
20:22
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
this was the last question before
20:26
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
ending.
20:28
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
I want to know,
20:29
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
is there any aspects that you
20:35
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
lived under Saddam Hussein's regime that you want to say that I
20:39
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
didn't ask you about?
20:40
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Do you have anything more to add?
20:43
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
No,
20:45
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
thank you.
20:46
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Do you have any questions for me?
20:48
S… Speaker 3 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
No,
20:49
S… Speaker 2 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
thank you.
20:49
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
So we sincerely thank you for your
20:53
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
participation.
20:54
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Your answers will be used in...
21:01
S… Speaker 1 (copy_A05353BC-F496-406C-BABB-283B27998DCC)
Thank you!

Bản ghi này được tạo bởi AI (tự động nhận dạng giọng nói). Có thể chứa lỗi — kiểm tra với âm thanh gốc để sử dụng quan trọng. Chính sách AI

❤️ Bạn yêu thích STT.ai? Hãy chia sẻ với bạn bè!
Tóm tắt
Nhấn tổng hợp để tạo một tóm tắt AI của bản ghi này.
Tóm tắt...
Hỏi AI về bản ghi này
Hỏi bất cứ điều gì về bản ghi chép này - AI sẽ tìm thấy các phần liên quan và trả lời.
Phiên âm