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awesome i might have had that same zone so what do you think cmu should do better that would make

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your college experience better what i think cmu could do better i haven't really thought about

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that it's an interesting question because i've seen cmu change a lot my my freshman year especially

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was covid okay so um how was that it was it was just very interesting because i i came in like

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it was at the very start of coded and so instead of there being like open door policy you know

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everybody just had their doors open talking to people i think i was the only person who had my

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door open and like cmu was going through all the who can what can can we do to have things

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but then like watching that unravel um some things i have i guess appreciated there is a lot of events

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there's always events to do and they have stuff the lobbies and the dorms and stuff

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i could do uh a bagel for you yeah i'm not i'm not really sure i feel like cmu does do a good

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job in a lot of ways unfortunately we do not but we have garlic and onion i don't know i can't think of

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any any that's okay at the moment yeah uh think back to before you decided to come to cmu what was the

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main reason why you decided to come here i decided to come to cmu it was far enough from my home that

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it could be separate from my family but not too far away to be too far away and then i had really good

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scholarships too that's awesome the other reason too i didn't know what i wanted to do i actually

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start off as a music major okay um and the professor here um i played on saxophone and he

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was just he was really kind to me he seemed to really like me um and so in my indecisiveness i

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was like you know good nice enough professor you know it just it fit a few few check boxes so

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um those were the main reasons yeah what kind of uh music did you like to play on the sax um so

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part of the pedagogy was you were in a saxophone quartet for four years okay so you're with the

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four three other people in your grade and you grow up basically together um and like we got to compete

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in national competitions so it's a little bit obscure but um quartet music was like and which can be

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modern it can be classical it's kind of anything under the sun not to go too in depth with it but

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saxophone just being a more modern instrument yeah they have more modern mm-hmm they can do whatever

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so yeah i was in a band growing up so uh i didn't play sax i played clarinet but a lot of my friends

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had too yeah i really like it um a lot of my friends played sax and they had like like saxology which

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is like the quartet so they did like christmas stuff going around the school yeah yeah uh uh

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now you're gonna tell me about your typical week in school or like when you were like in the dorms

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and all that like how did that look like a typical week for here now or like when i started or if it

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um are you a full-time student currently yeah so i'm a full-time student now okay but i'm also

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married and live off campus oh so um just that looks very different than what it did when i first started

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you can tell me about both just a brief of both um so like i said i started off as a music major for my

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first couple for the first four years that was most of what i did um i had a pretty heavy course load

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anywhere from 15 to 20 credits oh my gosh and then with music in particular this is something i

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didn't realize until i got here but uh they saxophone studio in particular competes at like national and

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levels uh for stuff and i was practicing anywhere from i was playing my saxophone anywhere from like

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20 to 40 hours a week that's a lot the majority of the first four years so and that the like the

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credit equivalent for that was just one credit so like yeah only one yeah so it was uh like i said

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the quartets we would meet um anywhere from 10 to 15 hours on top of 15 to 20 hours of class

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So, I was pretty busy with that.

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Like I said, my first year was a little bit weird just because everything was shut down.

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Most things were virtual that were for the non, for the extra credit or extra curricular type stuff.

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I got connected with the church pretty quick.

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And crew I got connected with, especially more in the second semester of my first year,

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just as things started to open up.

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And we found ways to meet with people in person because it's just hard to meet with people online.

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It is.

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It's the only way of meeting with people.

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What church did you get connected to?

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First Baptist Church.

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Okay.

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Yep.

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My faith is really important to me.

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And so, my parents helped me with just, they didn't force me, but they helped to research some options.

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First Baptist Church is over on High Street.

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And they, like, suggested it to me and crew.

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And I did, like, they had one of the socials where they were handing out cards to her crew.

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And I was like, hey, I wanted to check them out anyway.

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So, it worked out well.

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And somebody reached out to me.

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Is it the Papa John's go?

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Yep.

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Yep.

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Which I never used, of course.

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But it's a good method for that.

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And then, I actually walked to church from the dorms in the first couple weeks.

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And I ended up meeting some roommates that way down the road.

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That's awesome.

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So, yeah.

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My life was mostly school, music, and church.

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And very little of anything else.

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So, but I was fun with that for the most part.

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Now, it just looks like I work and do school.

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And I have less, my extracurriculars are more involved with the church.

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And I help with, like, some of the youth groups.

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And have small groups for other young married couples and stuff like that.

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So, it's kind of that, you know, the foot's already out the door a little bit.

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Yeah.

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That's good.

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Where do you work now?

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I have an internship with H&S.

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It's a tax accountant.

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Yeah, accountant.

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So, that's over by the X Anomalyze.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Oh, nice.

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I just get to work there part-time when I'm not in classes.

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Yeah.

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So, about how many hours did you work when you were doing your music major?

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Some years I worked part-time.

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Most of the time I didn't.

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Okay.

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I would do DoorDash when I had free time.

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That was a supplementary thing.

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And I worked during the summers.

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But just with the time demand of the amount of practice I had to do and keeping up good grades was a lot.

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Because also in my third year, I was finishing my music.

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And I realized that I didn't want to teach or go professional.

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So, I added a business management degree on top of that.

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So, I just, I throw too many things.

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And I was almost done with the music degree.

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So, I was like, might as well finish it in my quartet.

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So, I just, I was too busy most of the time.

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I did a couple.

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I worked in the dorms once or twice.

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But, and then my fourth year, I worked at Taco Bell here on Mission Street in my fourth and fifth year.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Nice.

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And then I actually worked part-time with a guy for construction, for like local construction and stuff for my church.

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Yeah.

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So, a little bit all over the place.

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Not, not a ton.

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But if I could fit it in.

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You did.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You told me about your social life and crew.

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Tell me more about that.

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Like, did you go up into like growth group and action group or?

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Yeah.

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So, like I said, it was just really interesting.

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Because for the first year and a half, there was probably only about four or five people that were in my year that like stayed, that started from like getting there.

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Just because it's hard to stay connected on the online stuff.

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So, there was a lot of people like my sophomore year that started, that came that were sophomores.

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But they started then.

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So, I kind of had, was like the same age, but a year ahead almost in the crew system, if you will.

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But in the crew, how they try to develop people.

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So, I did a growth group and then I went on a summer mission after my second year.

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And I did a lead action group and led a Bible study for two years.

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Yeah.

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And then I got married after my fourth year and I wanted to dedicate, I wanted to be really intentional with that.

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So, I subsided.

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I mean, we wanted to be together and our efforts and just thought it would be a good time.

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to start segwaying out of crew and so we still have some friends and crew and whatnot like I

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I know Mitch and Julie I've known them since they've um they before yeah since they got here

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but um they're really good friends but it also is just a time where you got to move on from

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college life too so yeah that was that was honestly the biggest part of my social life and then

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honestly the only other social life I had um was with my quartet yeah when you spend 20 to 40 hours

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a week with a group of people you get pretty close if you can stay

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yeah where did you go on summer mission I went to Chicago summer mission oh it was really great um

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honestly if you have the opportunity or experience or whatever I would highly recommend it um truly

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one of the best experiences just the way I grew to get closer with a lot of people there

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I don't know how many people or what some of the people do you know who Grace Pruitt is

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yeah I do I went to Chicago summer mission with her so she's a good friend of mine too

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and she would she would tell you it's great too so um I know a lot of people go on the ocean city one

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yeah when uh when I was going it was flipped most people went to Chicago and the ocean city and then

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the year after I went a lot of people started going to um ocean city but totally fine but

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yeah and now I think it's mostly just ocean city so yeah it is what it is but

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my wife went to ocean city one

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yeah I grew up in New Jersey so oh really yeah I grew up probably about

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an hour or so from ocean city so closer to the New York side okay so

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how'd you get over here you don't mind me asking no no it's okay uh my dad moved uh he lost his job

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and got a job in Michigan so after my senior in high school we uh packed up and went here and then

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I went to another college before this and then I did not like it whatsoever uh did not like who I

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kind of became there so I uh moved uh not moved but transferred here so it's been much better

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can I ask where you went before this or before seeing you yeah uh I went to West Virginia University

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oh oh cool yeah yeah quite quite a bit quite a bit different but yeah um during or

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like during your first few years or even now uh do you feel like you have enough time to socialize

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these days um I would say so yeah it's a little bit different this is my sixth year here okay um

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and I've kind of taken a lot of those steps to be out of crew for more part of the church

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so I would say like I do like I so I have stuff um small groups that I go to like bible studies

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um that I go to with people my age similar situation and I participate and help lead with

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like the youth group and church and it's I think it's a little bit less socialization but more just

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because it's the it's the core group of friends versus like the large like setting so

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but I feel like it's also more difficult to do that when you're not in that set yeah like if

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you're not in the crew setting like it's hard there's not many groups like that for outside yeah

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especially if you have that you know half foot half the foot out the door with college

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absolutely uh do you feel like you have enough time for self-care I make it

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self-care is a fun one I make it uh a point because I think part of self-care is like my faith

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yeah my relationship with God and so I believe it's most important to spend time with them and

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whether sometimes I don't spend my time the way I want to um so I think it's just uh where my

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priorities are at if I don't have enough time but I do I do usually this is one of my

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kind of lighter years in some ways but um even in uh even when I was super busy my second my second

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year was um a time where I really got closer in my relationship with God um and like I guess that

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self-care uh aspect too but um just because I would I would get up at anywhere from probably about 5 a.m

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and I would spend

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you

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about two hours like in doing my quiet time um just kind of center myself for the day on

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god and then i would be gone from about 7 a.m till sometimes up as late as like 10 to midnight

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um i usually just i would have classes and then practice and eat and then crew stuff bible study

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or meeting with people and then i would get back sometime between 10 and midnight and i'd spend

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another hour or two um kind of doing a quiet time to wind down the day and i didn't get much sleep

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um to be honest but i think in that particular season the self-care came more from the relying

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on god and whatnot um so it's it's i don't want to like callously say it but i think a lot of times

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you have to make time for what is actually self-caring yeah but so i think i have it's

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just whether or not i've chosen to done that because i've also had times where i just am on

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my phone in all my free time and all of a sudden there's no time for self-care because i didn't

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make it yeah but i really do believe it's important why do you think it's so important

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why do i think it's so important um there's i cracked my straw i think uh casey uses the

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biodegradable straws yeah um we came at a great time we do it just got distracted

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all right um we've got a buy three get three and a buy six get three that's one that just makes you

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think about about why do you believe it um did you say buy two get one for you buy two get one

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i would say i think it's important just because what would be helpful to wait for

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oh okay i wasn't sure for the recording or anything but um it's just helpful to

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if you have goals if you have desires if you have beliefs values um how are you going to

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do anything with them if you're not intentional with like yourself

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like i mentioned i've been really busy i've burned the candle at both ends um and gotten four

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to six hours of sleep for long stretches of time um in in ways that weren't helpful and i just find

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that i can't be intentional with my faith in my life with the things that i want to do um

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and it's interesting because part of the some sometimes the self-care is saying

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no to good things yeah for the sake of just rest or being still um so it's just i

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if you're always running and it's never rest like how are you supposed to keep running we're not

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we're not machines we're not designed to like god god tells us we're not designed to keep running

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and i think even for people that necessarily are not christians can know that like if you just keep

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working full speed non-stop with no rest you get burnt out so it's just important for longevity and

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um to be able to accomplish anything yeah uh given your weekly activities uh how do you feel about

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your typical week uh how do i feel about it like do i like my schedule kind of thing or like uh do you

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like your schedule um do you ever feel that you do have too much going on or you did have too much going

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on yeah i that's one thing i struggled with i mean my third year especially my quartet got to compete

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nationally with one of the best groups in the in the country and we were practicing 15 plus hours a week

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going into exams and our exam week the finals week we were practicing we practiced 40 hours yeah like we had

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to basically try to take it there was a point where we had to like just stop and be done early

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and our professor had us over for dinner actually which is like not a common thing just so we could

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like relax for a minute and just remember that there was more to life than just the work that we were

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doing and like there's a point where just it becomes too much um so there were times that i was too busy

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and i had to remember that because i did that in high school too where i was i would put too much stuff on

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my plate and regret on missing out on other things so i guess you know five or six years later now i feel

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like i'm a better

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balance of life but I tend to try to do a lot so I feel like I'm much more balanced now and

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that just came out of a process of continually hitting walls here and there of like you're

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doing too much again so I can relate to that yeah I'm a insane overachiever so if uh if something

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comes up that I'm like that will either get me further or I'm just like really interested I'm

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like immediately saying yes and then you're regretting it later yeah and I'm up 40 hours a

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week trying to get schoolwork done yeah yeah I'm that part of the reason I'm it's six years is

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because I have three majors and over 210 credits so yeah I'm I've done a few things yeah I'm I'm

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good I'm very excited to graduate yeah are you graduating this semester yep congratulations

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thanks thanks yeah uh how do you cope with uh certain kinds of stress really to school social

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life um I mean like it's a lot of it comes to some of that self-care and spending time with God talking

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with people that I trust um and just uh sometimes uh there needs to be a lot of boldness to just

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tackle challenges and problems even if you don't know the right answer yeah so that's the

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gist of that one I guess um it is interesting being married to like I have um some of that more

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um even more I guess personal and close um support structure so it's always

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very at least usually a very good blessing now if we're fighting you know then there's

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usually we're how did you guys meet through crew okay

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um it was her freshman year my sophomore year so dated for about two and a half years got married

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after she graduated and I had one more year at the well that was after my fourth year

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no I don't know but it was so it's been two years now yep two years almost two years when we've been

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

married two years in May congrats nice yeah I'm gonna make you fill out one more thing that's totally

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

fine I'll give you my pencil again if I can get this out fill it out yeah uh Snoopy yes great deal

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

I have not seen that one actually um I know when I saw that I kind of left as well the great deal

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yeah normally you see like the extremely likely you know that has been really good to me over this

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my school time even if I didn't plan on being here for six years besides getting married and all that

23:56

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what do you think has been your greatest accomplishment um I think uh probably my saxophone quartet

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

um we have like a whole youtube channel the the group like that quartet the quartets above us and

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

the grades above us and below us had a really hard time with like just their interactions and we just

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we clicked really well that competition that we were in the age limits were from like college

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as young as 18 to 35 so there were people that had their doctorates in saxophone music and we

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were juniors mostly education majors and so it was just like it was a really cool feat we didn't get

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

far in the competition at all but to get in that competition for where we were at um from CMU yeah it's

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just a lot of the schools are usually like very intense music schools so it's just it was a really

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cool accomplishment and like something I'll have to look back on

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

you

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

a long time and i hope to keep playing music every day of my life if i can excuse me does music calm

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

you yeah um i grew up before saxophone i played the piano um i've been playing piano since i was

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about seven um and i grew up playing class uh classical music and uh hymns which i know not a

25:26

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

lot of people are a huge fan of hymns but i really i really really like hymns um and especially some

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of them where uh not necessarily you sing along with but they're just add some grandeur to it and

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

yeah um my grandma taught me so i really miss that because i have only a really really crappy

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out of tune piano so but i used to play um once so once i got to end of middle school high school i

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was playing like an hour to two every day and it was just something that i understood and something

25:59

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

i could play and yeah um it's part of the reason i went into music to start with for for for my major

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

because i didn't know what else i was good at yeah what's uh what was your favorite hymn or is your

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

favorite hymn um i love um oh what's it called uh there's old rugged cross is a good one um come

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

now found uh rock of ages is one of my favorite hymns i don't know if nothing but the blood counts

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but i think it's yeah um yeah so i just feel like it's rare to find people that like really enjoy it

26:51

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

yeah much less tolerate it but i uh grew up in the presbyterian church so i'm very yeah very well uh

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

rounded in hymns what is this last one feeling though you spending too much time partying oh that's

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

just kind of uh so i don't know i just wasn't sure so okay yep it's uh so there are multiple levels

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

to this interview uh since it's a whole class yeah we have the option of doing non-drinkers uh like

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drinkers frequent drinkers and then um marijuana only users so i think this was just kind of like a

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generalized survey that uh the professor put in here gotcha so uh now let's turn our attention to

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

another topic drinking alcohol among young people sorry uh how would you compare student drinking at

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

your high school you were homeschooled right so that i don't i'm sorry does that oh no no it doesn't

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

that just makes it more interesting for me all right good um can you ask your question again yeah

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uh the question is how would you compare student drinking at your high school to drinking among

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students here at cmu so if you knew anything about kind of like your high school uh your local high

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

school and like the students yeah i don't know much about the local high school but i did still have

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like a lot of homeschool friends um that i interacted with a lot um i still think most of them drink i

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

mean i still interacted with some high public school high schoolers too yeah um like one of my good

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friends who's homeschooled his parents like kind of taught him about like what wines go good with

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

certain needs and whatnot when he was in high school so um he wouldn't have like a ton but uh yeah i i guess

29:02

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

i wouldn't really know on the public school front but with a lot of my friends a lot of them tried it

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

once or twice i never did i think i might have had communion once that but like yeah um so i was kind

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of oblivious in that world but i also like when i started working at taco bell um i started working

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in taco bell my senior year in high school and my eyes were opened with some things i mean it was in my

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

first semester of college that i had this comment but one of my managers was like oh like i came

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back uh for over winter break and he was like oh so you're at college like you know you're on the

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

party scene trying many drugs or alcohol and i was like huh and i was like nope that's not really my

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scene he's like well we'll have to get you to try some or something sometime i was like i don't know

29:54

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

if you can say that like i just turned 18 it's like hey you're my manager

30:00

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

But I had managers that would, they would stop at like the drug, the drugstore before

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work and they'd have a couple of whiskey bottles in the back for like later when they took

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

home my home.

30:10

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So I had a manager that dealt vapes to minors and yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So if you know, Taco Bell, like I knew about some of those things, but once you experience

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

it, like I had somebody arrested at that Taco Bell that I worked at.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Uh, I had somebody, uh, I wasn't there for it, but one of my coworkers, she was dating

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

one of the managers as a minor and something went wrong with that.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

He tricked her out in the drive-thru.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So I'm sorry if this is, oh no, no, no, no, it's good.

30:44

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I just started getting exposed to some of those things like, yeah, that and coming to school

30:50

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here and being a music major, which is a very liberal major.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So, yeah, so I guess compared to my college, like that was a, that was a really hard part

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with my first year because I lived in the, with all the other music students and I didn't

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do drugs.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I didn't drink, excuse me.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, and so that just kind of left me in with a few people that were hanging out that left

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

me in with very limited options.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I remember hanging out with a few times with some people and just, there was one guy who

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

had never tried edibles before and he was like, he like tried three or four and I was

31:30

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

like, I think it's time for me to go.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Uh, cause they were like, oh, you want some, I'm good.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I like having control of my mind and three, three or four edibles could do a lot.

31:42

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

He was a big dude, but still like for this first time, I just, that's crazy.

31:46

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

So, did, uh, a lot of the, um, music students, uh, drink and do drugs in the dorm?

31:55

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

31:55

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, oh yeah, I actually, I actually didn't even realize.

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So my roommate, um, was a music major and he kept to himself and because I'd never really

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

been around people who like smoke pot or anything before, I just didn't know what it was.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

And so I would like, I noticed that I post, you know, post this, I noticed that I had

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

a hard time focusing in my room, but I had friends come and visit me in my dorm room and

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

they're like, RJ, like, did you pick up a new habit?

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

I'm like, no.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

And they're like, it smells awful in here.

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And people like down the hall, up the stairs, down the stairs could smell it like through

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

the vents and stuff.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

And there's a whole episode, but I ended up, yeah, there was some rough stuff with that.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

But so he, he smoked a crap ton of weed and so I was definitely exposed to it.

32:48

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Uh, one of my quarter test mates, the guys that I was with, he, he, he smoked and drank

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

a lot.

32:54

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, I just would not go to those events or be around.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So there's definitely a little bit of loneliness at times, especially before I really could get

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

connected to crew.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, so, but, it was, so, yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

And then just, like, I never went to Wayside, that was never my scene.

33:19

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

So.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Um, how did you cope with that loneliness that came from it?

33:26

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, so I mean, especially that first year, it was mostly the first year, like three quarters

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

of the first year, I did still, like, run into a few creepy crew people, but I kind of just

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

focused on my, just my activities that I, I focused on doing really well in school.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, my time with more quartet, that was, like, I got close to them.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I didn't really, even without going to those events, like, or, you know, things where they

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

would party or whatever, I would still have time with, like, we're eating together, we're

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

doing two, three classes a day together.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Like, we're practicing together, so, like, there's still a lot of, like, that building

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

up relationship, so, um, yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, I do remember being lonely, but, um, I, like, in some way, it, nothing was, nothing

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

was bad, it was just hard to make friends, and I knew that that could be the case with

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

being a Christian in, like, the music dorm, so.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I called my parents, too, and went to visit them on breaks, um, so.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, but, you know, with, especially in the second semester, with things starting to build

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

up and, like, crew and whatnot, I think that helped with, like, reasons to, uh, like, just

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

keep, you know, just keep going, like, not give up on school.

34:49

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

34:50

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So, um, it's one of those, it wasn't all bad, but they're just some difficult parts, so.

34:57

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Where, uh, in Crew, where did you find your biggest support to stay away from drinking and drugs?

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Uh, I really just, I really never had, um, a desire to drink or do drugs, um, anyways, even with, without Crew.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, I think that's, in some ways, that's what made someone, like, the, I guess, quote-unquote, I mean, like, it was loneliness,

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

but, like, it was almost a comfort in that, because I knew what I was doing was worth it, but, like, to not do those things, um, like, it made me, uh, you know, sometimes sad or, like, frustrated,

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

not feeling like I had many people to hang out with, but I knew that I wouldn't, it would be worse if I did go and do those things, um, if I did, like, compromise my views with that.

35:52

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So it's, it was, like, sad for a good reason, if that makes sense, um.

35:57

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

There's a brighter side at the end.

35:59

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Yeah, the, the brighter, like, continuing the, the narrow course, the good course, um, but that was, that, this goes down a different path,

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

but those were, uh, just beliefs that I had for a while, because I have a lot of extended family that had a lot of issues with alcohol in particular,

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

so it's just not something, it's just not something that I wanted to get sucked into, and I had to pay for school,

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

so if my views started getting impacted, that's, yeah, yep, so, I mean, I just had good encouragement on top of it with crew,

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

so it was just kind of, like, uh, icing on the cake, like, yeah, it's not, like, it was good.

36:45

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

And I already had the, enough self-motivation, but, yeah.

36:49

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

That's great. Um, going back to, uh, kind of, like, the more, like, um, like, beginning years, like, where am I going?

37:02

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Oh, I'm so sorry, um, talking about, like, like, the kind of starting, the start of those morals or beliefs?

37:09

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Um, no, something else, uh, actually, I'm curious, were you in marching band?

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Did it, I know it's popular within high school that band students would do drugs or alcohol during, uh, competitions.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Did you see that at CMU, or was it, like, before or after?

37:35

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

No, um, yeah, for marching band here, I just didn't do much with the marching band outside of the, um, I just didn't have time.

37:47

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

37:47

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

That was the other part of some of this stuff, too, um, is that I just, I never had time to party, like, I didn't have time to party.

37:55

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I was already doing things for 15 hours a day, and then you want to go drinking and doing stuff afterwards?

38:01

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, I had marching band days, like, here.

38:03

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

38:04

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, one of, uh, the football games was at 11 a.m., uh, and so we had to be here at the field by 4 or 5 in the morning.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So I had to be up at 2 or 3 in the morning to get ready to get here, and then we're, we practiced for, like, 3 hours, we had lunch, do the thing,

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

and the game went until about 3, 4 o'clock.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I didn't get back to my dorm until 6.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, I ended up actually watching a movie with my quartet that day, some, some of the saxophone people.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, but it was just a movie, and then, like, we were all, like, we left at, like, 8, 8.30 and went to bed.

38:41

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Because that would, it's a long day.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

That was a Saturday, too, so we would just come off a week of everything else, and it's like, 2 a.m. to get ready?

38:49

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

It's crazy.

38:50

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Well, and, I think it was about 3 for me, but there were some groups that, like, their tradition is they'd go to IHOP before the games.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So they'd have to be at IHOP at 2, 3 in the morning before they go.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Was IHOP open?

39:02

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Oh, yeah.

39:02

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

They used to be a, usually, they used to be 24-7.

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S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Either way.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, I just, I was known as a weird kid by, um, or the kid that didn't drink, the Christian kid.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Um, and just, that is what it is.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

So, um, for a lot of people, I never got made, I don't think I ever got bullied or anything, or, like, made fun of for it.

39:33

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

That's good.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

You know, friendly, teased, or whatever, but, which is totally fine.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

But, um, it more just showed up, and, like, I didn't, people were hesitant to invite me to some other things.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

It's just, like, oh, he wouldn't want to do that, or, like, he wouldn't want to drink, or, like, which is, like, you know, they're not necessarily, so, it's one of those, like, a double-edged sword, but, like, it would be cool to have some of those relationships with people.

39:59

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Like, oh.

39:59

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

You know, like, let's go, oh, okay.

39:59

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Let's go.

39:59

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Thank you.

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

but also difficult because of like the choice of pastimes for most of the parts so

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

so it just meant I didn't really have a whole lot of close friendships through a lot of my

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

music stuff mostly just my quartet so yeah so yeah I didn't I didn't really see a whole lot of

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the drinking and drugs I know I know people partied and did stuff I I'm I guess in that

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

sense like I heard it I just about it and I just wasn't there to physically see it or whatnot and

40:31

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

then my high homeschool I was actually part of a marching band homeschool that's great that was

40:36

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

not a part of that at all because it's a Christian homeschool group so yeah yeah do you see college

40:45

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

students who have experienced negative consequences from drinking too often and or too much alcohol

40:51

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

yeah yeah um I mentioned one of the quartets the quartets around us some of them did not get along

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

have to drink or do drugs like they would do drugs before like doing their stuff together because

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they just couldn't stand each other at the time so I've known one of the groups above us was extreme

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

some of the people were extremely depressed so I've seen you know and heard about people that just like

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they can't do their classes because they got hungover or you know they just skip their classes I live

41:30

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

close to frat row so I hear most of the people partying starting at 9 a.m. on St. Patrick's Day

41:37

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

um so yeah there's I there's definitely consequences I can see it what was the worst case that you've ever

41:48

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

seen um I I really think for the most part it's a lot of smaller things but I just feel like I

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

just see a lot of like disconnect from like life outside of that post like drinking or you know

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

the next day just completely being out of it or not being able to function um not or not function well

42:15

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

um poor decision making like you know there's always there's oftentimes stories about so-and-so did

42:21

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

stupid um yeah I mean I've I've had I've woken up on you know game days at eight in the morning and

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

there was one time like people were hammering on the door of one of their neighbors across the

42:38

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

streets and they were already like screaming to like get up it's time to start drinking and they

42:42

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

were already basically drunk at like eight nine o'clock so it's just like I just I guess I don't see

42:47

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

all the consequences but I just see a lot of I don't know I just it almost breaks my heart in a

42:54

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

way like I because it feels like people like slowly chip away at ruining their lives which

42:59

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

maybe is it not saying that people ruin people's lives are ruined automatically because of that

43:07

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I think there's some room to have fun with certain things but I just so often I feel like with the

43:14

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

college setting it can it just turns out being so negative and it just sort of starts to build up

43:20

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

on itself after a while if people are continually in that mindset so yeah it's more sad than anything

43:27

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

else yeah uh since you've been here for six years um have you seen a change from this like uh just kind

43:41

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

of like society wise like the CMU uh drinking life have you seen a shift from the start to where it is

43:51

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

now kind of like in the years like a shift of it people still party all the time at you know the

44:02

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

wayside at their apartments and stuff and um I'd imagine and I mean I guess I don't have proof or

44:11

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

anything but especially with all the cannabis shops I'm sure that that popped up because all these

44:16

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

places didn't weren't here six years ago yeah um and I I've done DoorDash too like I've I've seen some

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

of the holidaying and stuff through that but um no in in some ways I guess like I I wouldn't say it's

44:35

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

like huge like dramatic but in some ways with how COVID tampered things I get tampered that too

44:41

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

and then it just went back to normal I imagine yeah with just things opening up and people having more

44:47

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

normal normal or atypical or not atypical but typical um college experiences so yeah I'm honest

44:56

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

I would say pretty neutral okay uh

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S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Do you feel that drinking is, like, a serious problem at CMU, specifically for what types of students?

45:10

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

For what type of students that go here?

45:12

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

Students that go here could be surrounding students as well, like high school.

45:21

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

It's hard because I don't, I'm not really a part of that, so I don't feel like I'm fully qualified to say, I guess.

45:27

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

But, I mean, I do think it is a problem, but it's not just CMU.

45:35

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

45:36

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Like, that's just going to be pretty much any college.

45:39

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

45:40

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

It's going to deal with those problems just because that's just the nature of people.

45:45

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Like, people are, will do what feels good.

45:49

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

45:49

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

What they enjoy, the short-term gratification.

45:56

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

So, I definitely think it's a problem.

46:00

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

And I don't think that drinking is automatically wrong.

46:05

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

I do drink from time to time.

46:07

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

I don't drink a ton.

46:10

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

But I just think the way that people handle it, there's a lot of times where it's handled poorly.

46:18

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

46:18

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

And people are just okay with that.

46:21

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

But that's a different standard, too, that people have for themselves.

46:25

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

46:26

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

You know, it's different for everybody.

46:28

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Definitely.

46:28

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

What do you think CMU and the Mount Pleasant community, as well, can do to reduce problem

46:38

S… Speaker 2 (Snoopy)

drinking among college students?

46:45

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

It's, it's one of those, how do you, how do you effectively do that, I guess?

46:50

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

46:50

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Because all these people that are coming here are not really people that necessarily live

46:55

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

in the area.

46:56

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

46:56

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

So, you're all of a sudden dealing with tons of people that you just have no relationship

47:00

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

with.

47:01

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

47:01

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Like, it might be something different if this wasn't a college town.

47:03

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

And it's like, yeah.

47:05

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Like, let's address the atmosphere.

47:07

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Let's, let's, you know, go into schools and do things.

47:09

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

But you just almost have that butting of heads with, like, the, the community, like, there's

47:17

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

the community aspect and then all the people that come in and then they, like, leave and

47:23

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

or, you know, they cycle through.

47:24

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

So, how do you effectively change something as people continually cycle in and out?

47:31

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Mm-hmm.

47:33

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

So, I just, it's a problem that feels like it has no solution.

47:40

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Yeah.

47:41

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Uh-uh.

47:42

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

Uh, in a lot of ways.

47:44

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

But one of the things I guess that, this is kind of more a general stance that I personally

47:52

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

have is just, like, how people are raised in the homes, um, having a good home life,

47:57

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

having encouragement from their families and communities.

48:02

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

And, like, but I do think differences can be made from people, uh, especially is that if

48:07

S… Speaker 1 (Snoopy)

that is a, a focus for multiple groups and families and I think that's what Christianity

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