Carl Hedberg # 1

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A blessing of sunshine and no sangria,
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just tea.
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I'm on the wagon.
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Oh,
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you're on the wagon.
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I am indeed.
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I have to do this every so often when I start to get nervous,
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you know,
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that I drink too much,
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which I sometimes do.
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So I have to monitor that carefully because
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it's an old,
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ugly Irish tradition.
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You know, you see a bottle,
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open it and drink.
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Yeah,
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I gave up.
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30 years ago wow 20 or 30
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it was after well gave it up completely after
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um in 2005 because my wife
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and i were going through a divorce and i went out with a guy who was going through a
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divorce and we got royally wasted playing uh pool in a
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local pub in town and the two week hangover after
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i just said i'm done i'm done
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Can't do it anymore.
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And with weed,
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which is the only drug I use,
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I will take seven -day fasts.
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And when I feel as though it's not,
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like I use it for creative and thinking,
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and when I feel as though I'm getting dull,
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I'll take seven days off.
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Yeah, I think that's good because that means that,
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you know, you're sort of not addictive to it.
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Right.
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Like we're in control.
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Yes, that's the key.
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Do you know this book?
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Breathing.
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No,
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but it's the new science of a lost art.
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So is it anything to do with meditation and Buddhism?
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No,
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it has to do with the lost art of breathing,
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which the Tao and those other modalities talk about.
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But it's more,
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it just blew me away.
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My ex -wife gave it to me.
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She's a Tai Chi master.
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Wow.
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And so she's very much into breathing and all that.
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But this book is,
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it's one,
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I read tons and tons of nonfiction.
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And I'll tell you,
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this guy is a good writer.
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He's, I mean,
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he's not born of writing.
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But it's very funny stuff,
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and he's doing a lot of self -trials,
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which is, it's funny how we put ourselves through
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self -trials.
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Like, I have done a lot of self -trials with tincture making,
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and some of the overdoses that I've
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had with testing extract,
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because you can only test them on yourself.
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What is tincture making?
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Tincture making is taking the trim from
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weed and then you
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take the weed trim and then you soak it in alcohol.
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Well, first you do a thing called light bake for
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about eight minutes or so.
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And then you put that into a jar with
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grain alcohol.
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and then you agitate every day for 10 days then
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the magic begins then the magic begins
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strain it off and you have about
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it's usually a liter or two total
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is maybe three liters you might have to cover a half a
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pound of trim going in
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So you end up with this,
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when it's all covered,
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it's all loose,
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it's called menstruum.
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Then you put that in a boiler and you
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reduce it.
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And you just,
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you can reduce it to a thick paste or you
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can reduce it to something which I make,
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which is called tincture,
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which is a,
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it's an extract that's not,
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it's calibrated so everyone can use it without getting
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an overdose.
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So I calibrate them to about each batch is different.
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And the fun part is each flower produces
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a different profile
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of whatever you're going to make.
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So every batch has to be tested on yourself.
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And that's the fun part.
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Well, that's the ride,
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because sometimes when I've been careless,
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I've gotten these,
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an overdose on cannabis extract.
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Jesus.
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I mean,
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you can't die from it,
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but you're certain,
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you're kind of wishing that you would die,
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because it's just so bad.
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Really?
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Okay.
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Okay,
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this is...
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No,
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go ahead.
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But the whole point of all this,
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that I've been doing this for years now,
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the whole point is that the real traditional
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medicine is the medicine we make from...
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stuff we grow on our property.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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It's the original,
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traditional medicine.
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And the United States is just,
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they're so,
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for a hundred years,
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they've been so hell -bent on controlling every single
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aspect of our lives,
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whether it's our choices of drugs.
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Yep.
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And it's just been extraordinary.
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And if you look at the United States,
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two of the biggest problems we have is opioid
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addiction and alcohol addiction.
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And not just alcohol addiction,
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but the way Americans...
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celebrate the overuse of alcohol you go to
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a party this is in my family we used to have all the day
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after the party conversations and the worst that your hangover was
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it was like you must have had a good time and so that's
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kind of the culture we have in america you you
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like watch any of our cop shows chicago pi or whatever they
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are and you'll see
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they all gravitate around alcohol use.
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In Chicago Fire,
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the firefighters have a bar named Molly's,
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which is an old firefighter's bar.
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And so they all do shots and they do their drinking and all that
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stuff. And tobacco use is
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kind of,
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the cool people will use cigars,
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but most people in that culture are still
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using tobacco.
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And so what I've been looking at is a
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new culture forming.
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You can find it in upstate Maine,
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in the Hyde -Ashbury attitude of
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San Francisco.
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But the idea is we don't need,
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it's not like part of America is like,
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we're going to bring the government down because we don't need government.
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There's another part of America which is saying,
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We don't need government,
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but we have nothing to fight.
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We're just going to go build a farm in the farm country,
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and we're going to live on our own,
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and we're going to share with our neighbors
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what we know about the medicine we're growing.
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We'll share vegetables,
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too, and information.
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And it creates,
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as you see in Starks,
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Maine, in that county of Starks,
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Maine, it creates an entire ecosystem.
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environment at least with weed and medicine and that type of thing where they're
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all trading these remedies back and forth and they're using barter
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and they're selling sometimes and and then they go to these they they
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created these um i think it's
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three times a year they have these harvest festivals and a venture capitalist
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in boston told me about this
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He introduced me to them.
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But they're at Harry's on the Hill in Starks,
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Maine in the fall.
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And everybody comes out of the woodwork showing whatever weed
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they've just harvested.
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And they sell it.
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They sell it on blankets.
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It's like Baghdad.
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It's like Baghdad.
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Is that legal,
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though, to do that?
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Is it now legal to sell?
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Well,
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interestingly,
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the time,
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I haven't been for a decade.
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Back in the day,
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in the late,
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this would have been 2008 or 2009,
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which I went up there with the venture capitalist.
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I was hooked.
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So I started going every cycle.
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You camp out for three days and you just smoke weed and
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hang out with hippies.
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That sounds very cool.
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Next time you go,
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I'm in.
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I'm in.
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Yeah, we should go together.
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It's a lot of fun.
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But anyway,
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while I was there that summer,
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one of the things,
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the feds arrived and started taking
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long -range pictures of all the attendees.
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And the local police in all
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the towns around there descended on Harry's on the Hill and
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forced the feds out.
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They said,
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you get the fuck off this land.
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This is Harry's on the Hill.
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He's never hurt anyone.
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And so we started talking to the police,
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the local police,
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who really supported the whole thing.
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And my research showed that about 25 years
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before that,
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that's what they were saying,
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25 years ago,
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we had rampant alcoholism and domestic
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violence in northern Maine.
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And the police commissioners got together and they,
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you know...
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What can we do?
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And so what Stark's police commissioners
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decided to do,
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Stark's County,
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was they went to all of the local
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people who they know,
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you know, they kind of smoke weed on the side and they all knew.
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And they said,
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look.
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You can grow 99 plants or less.
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And it's a very short growing season in Maine.
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So they have actual strains like early girl that
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are known for just compressing their life cycle.
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So they said,
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you can grow 99 plants and the local police aren't going to do with it.
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And then you can process and do whatever you want with it.
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We don't care.
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Just keep it under 99 plants because the feds
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will come in at 99 and more.
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Because then it's a big enough haul just by the cost
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of bringing it to court and all that stuff.
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And what happened was the end
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of the story is the police determined.
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that what happened was that instead of the snow trades being
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the only line of work that you could have in the winter in
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Maine, other than beating your wife and getting drunk,
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that was what they did in Maine in those days.
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Now you give them this thing that they can process throughout
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the year.
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They can have indoor grows.
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It keeps them busy.
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It keeps them busy,
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and it keeps them out of the bars where they would just go and look for fights every
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night. That was what they did in northern Maine.
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And it's totally changed that whole community around.
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So that's kind of where I started going to
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those festivals and I had my tincture with me and
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in tiny little drambots.
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So I would,
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and I'd have them wrapped with,
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it was like an information wrap.
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that would tell you everything you need to know.
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So I could just literally toss it to someone,
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and I was,
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all the information's there.
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It can't kill you,
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no matter how much you drink.
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And certainly that little dram isn't going to bother you.
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And I said,
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but the only,
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and I would go to all the fire,
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the, you know,
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the campsites.
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And I would,
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they were all group people.
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Interesting,
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believe me,
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very colorful people.
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From motorcycle gangs to hippie families.
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And so I would go and I would give them and I said,
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but there is a price.
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I'm going to come back in two or three days towards the end of the festival
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and ask you what the effects were.
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Everybody can dose it.
12:18
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It's about eight drops.
12:19
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
You know, you should do about eight to 10 drops.
12:22
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Dose the campfire.
12:24
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You know, dose everybody.
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And I'll just come back and talk to you about how you felt.
12:29
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
And so that's how I started getting the anecdotal.
12:33
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information on on the amazing qualities of cannabis
12:38
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as medicine when it's when it's not smoked but when it's
12:42
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
used as an extract as an extract it's it's funny you mentioned so many
12:46
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
interesting points about you know the feds coming in telling us what to
12:50
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do this and that um i i just read i think a few months ago
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that the native indians finally got the legal right to have
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to do their own uh uh you know
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Drugs, peyote,
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I think they call it.
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I forget.
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Peyote,
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S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
yeah. Peyote.
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And so then I thought about it.
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It was like, yeah,
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S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
wow.
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S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
You know,
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we Europeans,
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or our forefathers,
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came in, conquered the land,
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and then told the Indians what to do and what not to do.
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It was like, no,
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S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
they couldn't smoke their peyote because we don't like that.
13:20
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But you can get drunk.
13:23
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
You can get drunk and waste your life.
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That's okay.
13:26
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Right.
13:27
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Well,
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S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
it's like in the United States,
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We've gone so far over the edge of this
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idea of free speech.
13:38
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
We don't really have free speech because you're not allowed to yell this
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at this time of day or you're not allowed to yell fire in
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a crowded theater.
13:47
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So we don't have pull,
13:49
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but that's what they focus on.
13:50
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Or they focus on the guns.
13:52
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
We should be able to amass our guns and all this stuff.
13:55
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But what they're missing is that we're not free in
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America to choose our own drugs.
14:02
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
We can only choose,
14:04
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in America,
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we can only choose tobacco.
14:07
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
They give you that to chill.
14:09
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
You know, that's something you have to chill.
14:10
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
You use alcohol to have fun or to,
14:14
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
you know,
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to cheer someone.
14:15
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But use alcohol for all social functions.
14:18
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And then use pills if you get in trouble.
14:21
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Yeah.
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Lots of pills.
14:23
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Then take pills if the pills get you in trouble.
14:27
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Then anti -pills,
14:28
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again, for the pills.
14:30
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
And my mother was a what was just she was
14:34
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
a great mom.
14:35
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
But like many old Yankee women,
14:38
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she was a severe alcoholic.
14:40
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
And so was her mother.
14:42
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And so was her mother.
14:43
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And so I one time I got my mom
14:47
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
totally baked down.
14:49
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I used to spend summers down at her condo
14:53
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in Florida on Treasure Island.
14:55
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And one day I just found,
14:57
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you know,
14:58
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she would go.
14:58
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
It's a psych.
15:00
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My uncle used to run a
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place called the Tree of Life down in
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Hartford, Connecticut.
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It was a rehabilitation center.
15:14
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for very high -end type of thing.
15:16
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And my mom was a revolving door,
15:19
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you know,
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because she went through this cycle,
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which is so clear for alcoholics,
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S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
where they get sober,
15:27
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
and then they have that,
15:29
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what do they call it,
15:30
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
that pink period or something,
15:31
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
the period of euphoria where you think,
15:35
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I can handle drinking.
15:37
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
My mom used to do this all the time.
15:39
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
She said,
15:40
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I never started drinking again when I felt bad.
15:42
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
It was always when I felt that I was feeling so good I could handle
15:46
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
it. Right down into the rabbit hole.
15:50
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Relapse.
15:50
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Relapse.
15:52
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
And then she comes out on the other side,
15:55
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sometimes on a hospital gurney because she would
15:59
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drink herself that far.
16:02
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Then they'd get her sober.
16:03
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And meanwhile,
16:05
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
this woman is an amazing artist,
16:08
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
but she's also severely depressed because...
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Her love for life,
16:13
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my dad,
16:14
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had divorced her.
16:16
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
So she was in a deep depression about that.
16:18
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Her dad had died at 53.
16:19
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So she had a lot of things to be depressed about.
16:22
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So they'd get her sober,
16:24
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
and then they'd send her home,
16:25
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
and they'd say,
16:26
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
okay, well,
16:27
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
now take these pills.
16:28
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
There was one pill they gave her that
16:32
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what it did was it made you sick if you
16:36
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drank.
16:37
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So you had to be on your honor to take the pills.
16:39
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And then,
16:40
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
you know, she'd put those aside.
16:41
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
But they gave her pills to combat the depression
16:46
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
she had from being sober.
16:47
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
So one day I went,
16:49
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
scored some weed on St.
16:51
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Pete Beach, and I came back and bought a bong,
16:54
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
which I still have,
16:55
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
a little silver bong in a head shop on St.
16:58
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Pete. And then I barged in and I said,
17:01
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Mom, this is Hawaiian and you're getting big.
17:07
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
And she went,
17:08
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
oh, no, no,
17:09
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I'm a good girl.
17:09
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I'm a good girl.
17:11
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I was raised proper.
17:13
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I said, Mom, you have a drinking problem beyond anything you could
17:18
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imagine.
17:18
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Let's just so we had a party bowl and I stuffed
17:22
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it. And so I said that,
17:24
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you know, passed it back and forth,
17:26
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back and forth.
17:26
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
This was good stuff.
17:28
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And my mom kept saying it's heavy,
17:31
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heavy smoker.
17:32
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She said, I'm feeling that.
17:33
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And I just kept passing it.
17:36
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
You got to take another hit.
17:37
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Hold it in.
17:38
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
That's right.
17:39
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Let it.
17:39
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
So she was.
17:40
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And I knew because I was a smoker,
17:42
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
but not a smoker,
17:43
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
but a toker.
17:44
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I was obliterated by the
17:48
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time I stopped passing this bung,
17:50
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you know, this party bowl.
17:51
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So I was really stoned.
17:54
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And my mom goes,
17:55
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I don't feel anything.
17:56
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And she sat at the kitchen table.
17:58
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And then all of a sudden her shoulders started to rot because she
18:02
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began to laugh.
18:02
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There you go.
18:04
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And she just shook her head and she goes,
18:06
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
you know what?
18:07
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I'm going fishing.
18:08
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And she went down.
18:10
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
She grabbed her rod and she left.
18:12
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She had a canoe on a dock.
18:14
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So she flipped the canoe over and she paddled away.
18:18
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And it was like three hours later she came back.
18:23
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And she still felt it.
18:25
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And I said,
18:26
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so how was it?
18:28
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She said, it was really one of the best experiences of my life.
18:32
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She said, I sat and watched the sun down and just...
18:35
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Amazing.
18:36
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And I said,
18:37
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so I can show you where to get some.
18:38
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And she just interrupted me.
18:41
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She said, I would never,
18:43
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
ever do that again.
18:44
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She said, what would your father say?
18:46
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
What would my father say?
18:48
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Rolling his grave and all this stuff that she was a well -raised
18:53
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Yankee from the old Yankee family.
18:55
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Exactly.
18:55
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It's all these conditions.
18:56
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
We've been conditioned to think this or think that because of our family,
19:00
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our teachers.
19:03
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
By the way,
19:04
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Carl,
19:04
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you know, my brother worked with your father.
19:07
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My brother's a surgeon,
19:10
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and he worked at the MGH.
19:11
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I have actually two brothers who are surgeons and one sister who's a surgeon.
19:15
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And my oldest brother worked with your father on a rotating internship.
19:19
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
I believe it was the MGH.
19:20
S… Speaker 2 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Did he ever work at the MGH?
19:22
S… Speaker 1 (Carl Hedberg # 1)
Oh,
19:23
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he was a big poobah there.

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