Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm

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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
What is this?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Why does this have dirt on it?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Why does this have this huge stain
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
on it?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
From where?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
just like, for me
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to engage, I need different types of engaging from people.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Something
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
that would compensate for the daily life of it.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because I'm an individual who is actually pretty much in control.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Do you
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
want me? No,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
go on.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So basically,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I think I'm glad to bring it up.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
At
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
least I'm like, fused at some behaviors that do
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
not display because I'm
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
not being more into the balance.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
No,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's just because I was told immediately.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I know, I know.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Not to do it.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
For your money.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm tired.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So I just stopped.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but that was, that was 5 -10.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Now we're talking about now.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
No, but this happened even more here.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Oh,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
okay. Well, then that's it.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
of the conversation this is also what happens when i give you my feedback
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
the conversation no i'm trying to talk about what we're going to do next yeah so in
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
order for you to understand why that stopped yeah but it's
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like i don't remember the last time
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
When I said,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like, let's allocate time,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
let's allocate time to talk about it,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
let's allocate a space for it,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's never responded to.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I don't know.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You don't look interested and you told me you're not interested.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So I stopped.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I was like,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
okay, fine.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You don't like me.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So I think that's what ended up happening.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah, if you're saying that's not the case,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
fair enough, but that's what's communicated.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
No,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I said, that's how it was.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And then increasingly,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you're just like,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm tired, I'm tired,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm tired.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I don't, I don't,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I don't.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I won't.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
No.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I've heard this for years.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because you always told me,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I can't do this,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I won't do that,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm not experiencing this.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
These limitations were put on.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So I was just increasingly switching things down.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I didn't feel like I could actually just express or go forward.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because you always told me,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I can't do this.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Or I'm not...
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I can't do what?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's like I was sick,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I had depression,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and I had...
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I was not at all.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
My head was low on that.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Now that we've become like...
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Are you with
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
me or anything?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm with you.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm saying therefore,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I don't know.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I have not been given a cue that that was actually changed
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
or that was different or that was possible.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's not that change.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It cannot change unless there is a change for me as well.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm certain stuff.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because it's like I don't engage with certain types of intimacy anymore.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because I've realised it's all around the intimacy.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And maybe that would explain why.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You understand?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I do understand.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm generally just asking you,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
can you be dominant?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Why is it for you to be dominant?
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
To feel like I can do what I want.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
To feel like I can express something.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
To realise that you're just telling me,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
okay, they're not going to touch me with your hand.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You're not going to touch my private parts.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You don't want to do so.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So I'm like,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
okay, fine.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
We just focus on you.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
To
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
be able
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to express and engage as I please and to be able to give that to somebody as
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
well and not have this type of limitations.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Like I said,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
for both people to let go of inhibitions and actually just engage
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
with each other.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So do you understand what I mean by dominance?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
When it comes to that specific...
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because what I was experiencing was someone who was very submissive.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I was like, okay,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
fine.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I need to just follow that because that's where
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you need it to be in this framework.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
What do you call very submissive?
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You largely look contained within yourself
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
or not as expressive as you probably could be.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So the two things are tied together.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
we have to work from the standpoint of what you do with that in writing context
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to accomplish what you're saying.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Well that's why I proposed over and over again to like actually
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like talk about it like this and actually spend some time in
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
the day to actually just engage with each other like to feel it out like to
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
actually practice like engage so like not leave it to
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like randomness like to sit with it.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Like learning to write a Bible.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Now,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
when it comes to domination,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
do you understand what I mean by that?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So you tell me what you mean by it.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's good to
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
actually hear what you have to say.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So if you could please elaborate.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
If there's something you want to elaborate.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Consolidate.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
For me,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
we've always been kind first in here.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Limitations
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
that I was putting in.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But it's also because I've never found it really.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
being more dominant is actually stuff that I've not seen in our relationship.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because it actually comes forward.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But then there's personal preference in how
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
things are being conducted,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
how things happen.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And there's multiple stuff that actually that
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
posture meets.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But this stuff then,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
whenever you engage,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's not present.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And it was never present,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
even before.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I realized it was never present.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
again,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it came from,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like, a lot of relationships.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
We both like balancing,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but it's just that in terms of my intimacy,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
we need to be balanced on that side.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But it can bring balance in the relationship at large.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's the same as roles,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
daily roles,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you know, like,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you do male role,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I do female role.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and we're struggling with this so it's actually the same thing that is happening
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
on that end but if it was a bit more set on that end it would actually help
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to navigate this like whatever circumstantial
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like some balancing that we try to adjust in the real life you gave me so
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
that's why it's like for me i give you an example you've always
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
been smiling for example yeah now you smile because
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you feel comfortable you feel like say whatever we're doing what we're doing
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So you tend to be smiling,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
tend to not actually look him in the eyes,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
for example.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
A dominant more perspective of
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
this type of stuff would not be that,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it would be the direct opposite.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It would be looking someone straight in the eyes
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and also having a more serious,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
between brackets,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
more intense way of engaging.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Just like the facial expression are already very different and
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
they would treat you something different for mine.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
because anything like balanced or
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like basically distinct does not at
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
all arouse me like it does not at the
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
same time it's like it's very much more easy to find the stuff in a toxic man than
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it is to find it within you because you're actually
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
quite pretty much a heal person but we're talking more about primal shit here than
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
actual like toxicity in general
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
toxicity is bad for the aforementioned,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but that's when it transfers from that context to another.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I don't know if you see what I mean?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I do, but like I said,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
because my experience also was one where you
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
are submissive in that space,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I think, because that goes with your personality.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm aware of all that.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm aware of that.
13:54
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm aware of that.
13:57
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm aware of that.
13:59
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm aware of that.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But like I said,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I saw the timidity and also the communication
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and the point you'd made.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So I think that's why it stayed in that room of like trying to...
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Make you feel safe or be friendly.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Like it doesn't look like it's put
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to the side because what I want and what I'd like to do is not possible.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
don't know.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
When I said it,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I was told,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like I said,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I can't or no or I don't.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
When I tried to initiate,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I was told another time.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So you stop.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's what I'm saying.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's why I said you were submissive in
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
that regard, not in the other regard.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I get it,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's not submissive in the other regards.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But it was submissive in that I can't do stuff.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So,
14:55
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
yeah,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
so therefore it's like,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but I never hear what is.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I mean,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I get it,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but like I said,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
there's no engagement on the other side for me to ever feel like that's
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
the case, that you actually want to do something or that you're interested.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Okay.
15:29
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Well,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
we can try to move forward.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Also,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
even if I re -engage there,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
there are still possibilities for
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
this, which is why I'm going to actually get the
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
therapy for it.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I've already started doing a good job in my own head.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
the past negative experiences I had from my actual sexual preferences
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
which have been basically like more like uh
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
merged together I can say that bad
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and pulling this side of my brain like it gave me off like I'm trying to dissociate
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to as in okay it's all good to be stinky that
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
doesn't mean necessarily to actually love the situation we're doing now
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
when it comes to this posture
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I understood that,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I understood that you stopped doing that.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I know,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but you stopped doing the other stuff.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So there we go.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Understood why,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
yeah.
17:21
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I know I didn't do that.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I know I didn't do that.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I know it.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm trying to stay forward.
17:27
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Again,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
if you do not help me by talking about the forward,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
then by constantly getting back to that,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
which I understood,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
which you understood,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
so I'm sorry about that.
17:38
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
We need to wrap this up and actually start talking about it and
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
stuff, because if we continue again to actually bring it back,
17:45
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
back, back,
17:46
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
back, back, then I'm just going to continue to not do anything.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
from now on yeah it's like are you able to actually like
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
understand what i mean by intensity by a certain look by
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
a certain engagement by uh actually also yourself expressing yourself
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and other stuff than just expressing i
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
actually told you that once you don't express you just smile like you just have like a actual
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like smile or you just like use your tongue to actually
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like uh
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like your upper lip like it's just this is what you do this is
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
how how you engage you've always done that since
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
i know this is your own self -giving behavior in terms of expressions in
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
terms of engagement that i've always seen in you this has never changed but
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
this on its own does not signify anything it's
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
a lack of communication and engagement on that end first
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
that actually create further disconnection and I'm trying to actually
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
explain to you that like you're not eating a cake you're not playing a game like like it's
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
a different thing that requires different like
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
expression when it goes to the posture and that's what I'm trying to say but
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
this is the type of stuff that again I have never seen you doing that
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
intimacy with you has never done from a domination uh
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
perspective or something a bit more more intensity more grip more look
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
inside into the eyes more like i don't know like this
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
type of shit has never happened between you and me okay
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
all right like it happens from certain different things from
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
from again loving uh and good and like more respect
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
relationship which i completely appreciate
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But just right now,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm just realizing the limits of my biology as well.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You get me?
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So that's also why.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And we also explored the
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
other side, which might not have been good,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you know, when you were more submissive,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
which, again, it doesn't correspond to me.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You understand?
19:54
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So this also are the stuff that actually would generate a lack
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
of...
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
stimulation and willingness of mind maybe for you you're more adaptable
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
that's how i see you you seem to be just adaptable that's
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
how you are like you can enjoy it as long as
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you're connected to someone you enjoy it but it's like it's not about the way you are engaging like
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you're adaptable you can't actually enjoy it in many ways you
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
don't mind i'm just telling you for me it's not
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like that actually
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So I cannot,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I do not have the biological response in anything.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And then it creates this lack
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
of engagement.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But then it's like it might not be also suitable for you.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So that's why I'm trying to talk about it now.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because again,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you're not exactly per se like an
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
actual man in the traditional sense.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Whereas I would say a more B2Brak is traditional,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it would be actually pretty straightforward for him.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's less for you because of this adaptability,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
this flexibility.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's why I'm trying to ask you as well to know where you're at,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you understand?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's not the same with a man who is connected
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to his feminine and actually enjoys both and uses both in his daily life and
21:16
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
also raised a kid and did a lot of stuff here that technically
21:20
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
are not in your role.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
so it created to you this like fluidity that is very positive for
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you as an individual because you're more of a complete individual etc yeah but then this
21:31
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
is actually like clashing with me because me i'm not like that
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like i ain't like that like i'm much
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
rather from a traditional uh position
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and even if and the fact that i'm not able
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
to do that right now but already provided bringing
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
me no problem
21:54
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But yeah, this is what I believe is a huge cultural difference as well.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because of where you come from,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
the type of work you did on yourself.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And where I come from and the type of stuff I do align with,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I decided to align with.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So this is something that is actually quite a bit of a question
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
mark. As in,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
how do we meet in the middle of that?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
In a way that is going to be nice for both.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But so far I can say it,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's not nice for me.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm sorry to say it.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's like, I do not feel anything.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Like, I do not feel anything.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Like,
22:30
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
because I do not crave that type of connection.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I do not feel anything.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Like, it doesn't trigger a biological response
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
of arousal.
22:40
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It does not.
22:41
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
However,
22:42
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
when I think about some other type of scenario which never happened between you and me,
22:46
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it could.
22:48
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But again,
22:51
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like I said,
22:51
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
those scenarios are multi -tracking,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
traumatic stuff,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
etc.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But because I'm actually putting order into this stuff,
22:59
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's gonna get better you know but like
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
i said because this is the type of state that usually comes with
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
a toxic masculinity it ends up being like sometimes coercive
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
sometimes a bit too much sometimes this and this and that but if we do aftercare
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
between us and actually still talk and we do have this communication i don't really
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
see why it would be a problem
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So, at the end of the day,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you never traumatize me effectively.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
If that's something that you were afraid of and that you thought when I was telling you not
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
now and I don't want to do that,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's not because you did anything to me.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
On the contrary,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's the low intensity and the actual problems
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
coming from around that actually prevented us to fully engage when
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it comes to that.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You get me?
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So you never did anything to me that was like,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
oh, I'm not telling you no,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I shouldn't be doing that.
23:54
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
No, I don't.
23:55
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's not it.
23:55
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's more about a fully fluid,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
flexible, when we try anything,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm not interested.
24:02
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I'm telling you that.
24:03
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I have pretty much some set interest because
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I know what I like and I know what I don't like.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But for you,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you're just so fluid that I don't know if you're going to be able to understand it.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because for you,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's whatever.
24:17
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's like you can't see enjoyment in anything.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You have this ability,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
like I said,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it's positive for you.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It just doesn't correspond to what I like.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's it.
24:26
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Okay.
24:39
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
The
24:44
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
question is,
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
what are we going to do?
24:46
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because you're not going to create to yourself.
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
If that's not the stuff that you have done in
24:52
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
your life, what are we going to do,
24:53
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you know?
25:03
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But like I said,
25:03
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you've never told me those things.
25:05
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You've never thought about it.
25:07
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and you've only told me the opposite.
25:10
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So it's like what I've already said.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So therefore,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you say you know what you want.
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's like you didn't express that.
25:17
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You express what you didn't want.
25:19
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
So that's where there is that,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
okay, I don't want to be triggered or
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
press certain buttons.
25:29
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
In the process,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you just remain inhibited.
25:35
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
In the process,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you remain inhibited,
25:37
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but you're not really letting go in the way that you should be.
25:40
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That feeds back onto you and then what you're saying.
25:43
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's a loop.
25:46
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I
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S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
told
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S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you.
27:36
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But that's not what's presented
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
in that space.
27:41
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And the thing is when you...
27:45
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
You have nothing to do with the people who did that.
27:47
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Yeah,
27:48
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
but I heard about it so much and I see it so much in your face
27:52
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and in the dialogue.
27:53
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And then it's like,
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S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
you try to actually compensate and make people safe.
27:57
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's the thing.
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S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it was more like a
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S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
way of like it was more like emotional disappointment
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S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
the actual sexual like uh violence that makes sense that's
28:31
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
actually the truth of it you know so it's like unless you're actually like
28:35
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
uh emotionally violent it doesn't
28:40
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
go with the other side of things if that makes sense
28:46
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
The problem that I experienced is that I was trusting someone that actually put
28:51
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
his own kink before any type of lack of situation he had for me.
28:55
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
And this is actually what was violent.
28:58
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's it.
29:00
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
But it has nothing to do with you.
29:01
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
What's the link between someone engaging
29:07
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
in intimacy with their wife,
29:09
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
regardless of how it is?
29:11
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
and someone who actually is mocking about that person and not considering them
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S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
as a partner or even a girlfriend or whatever,
29:18
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
or someone they date,
29:19
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
whilst making the other person remain in that way in
29:24
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
between,
29:25
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it has nothing to do with it.
29:27
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Don't do that to me.
29:28
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Because that's not where we are in a sense.
29:31
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
That's the thing.
29:34
S… Speaker 1 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Okay.
29:37
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Well, if we're removing this from the space,
29:40
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
I think that's good for everybody.
29:41
S… Speaker 2 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
It's been in the space for a long time.
29:43
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
Like I told you already most of the time,
29:45
S… Speaker 3 (Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm)
it was emotionally like abuse

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