Important Intimacy Talk Nassila 17 May 2026 12-21 pm
Mabhuku
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2:51Chikamu 1: What is this? 127s · Speaker 1
What is this? Why does this have dirt on it? Why does this have this huge stain on it? From where? I'm just like, for me to engage, I need different types of engaging from people. Something that would compensate for the daily life of it. Be…
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5:00
of the conversation this is also what happens when i give you my feedback the conversation no i'm trying to talk about what we're going to do next yeah so in order for you to understand why that stopped yeah but it's like i don't remember t…
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10:00Chikamu 3: Like learning to write a Bible. 298s · Speaker 1
Like learning to write a Bible. Now, when it comes to domination, do you understand what I mean by that? Yes. So you tell me what you mean by it. It's good to actually hear what you have to say. So if you could please elaborate. If there's …
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15:09
I mean, I get it, but like I said, there's no engagement on the other side for me to ever feel like that's the case, that you actually want to do something or that you're interested. Yeah. Okay. Well, we can try to move forward. Also, even …
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20:13
you're connected to someone you enjoy it but it's like it's not about the way you are engaging like you're adaptable you can't actually enjoy it in many ways you don't mind i'm just telling you for me it's not like that actually So I cannot…
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22:28Chikamu 6: Like, because I do not crave that type of connection. 284s · Speaker 2
Like, because I do not crave that type of connection. I do not feel anything. Like, it doesn't trigger a biological response of arousal. It does not. However, when I think about some other type of scenario which never happened between you a…
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27:13Chikamu 7: told you. 297s · Speaker 3
told you. But that's not what's presented in that space. And the thing is when you... You have nothing to do with the people who did that. Yeah, but I heard about it so much and I see it so much in your face and in the dialogue. And then it…
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32:13Chikamu 8: So, like I said, if we're removing, if we're creating a new space with less limitation, then I can pursue that. 238s · Speaker 2
So, like I said, if we're removing, if we're creating a new space with less limitation, then I can pursue that. Weird, no? Because weird, that's how you actually engage. I'm not trying to destroy you, I like you, but it's fine. If I need to…
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36:12Chikamu 9: Like, I'd be losing breath. 148s · Speaker 3
Like, I'd be losing breath. Like, it's like, all this type of stuff that I was actually fighting to then do basic things. And I still haven't even learned how to sing again with my nose is the way it is. I don't know how to do music in the …
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38:56Chikamu 10: That's the thing. 75s · Speaker 2
That's the thing. So you can't be idealizing or saying positive stuff about next days making you simultaneously experience stuff. I wasn't idealizing. But the way you're talking about it, regardless of what it is, it was not actually health…
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40:12Chikamu 11: and I understood that. 301s · Speaker 3
and I understood that. I'm going to speak to someone and they tell you, like, I'm going to come in to see you or give you your stuff because I have other priorities. This is the type of shit that automatically is willing to leave a mark. Wh…
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45:13
devalued me for a while and that's why I actually devalued you as well most importantly about me it devalued our relationship and it devalued you that's why I didn't want to be with you that's why I actually did you so much as well that per…
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47:11Chikamu 13: But again, we don't know what DNA does. 73s · Speaker 3
But again, we don't know what DNA does. A lot of stuff about how we're engaging with that. That's what I say, but I thought, being such a low achieving person, it's not possible. So yeah, sometimes I'm like, I would like you to be less of a…
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48:24Chikamu 14: I hear what you're saying. 76s · Speaker 2
I hear what you're saying. Work through it, then we'll work through it together. Respond accordingly. Nothing I didn't already understand or figure out for myself or feel for myself. Overall, I just... The way this distorted everything and …
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49:41Chikamu 15: in fact. I'm sorry for that. 302s · Speaker 1
in fact. I'm sorry for that. Truly. That's the main thing that came from my session today. I'm just sorry to both of you, really, that I couldn't... No matter what means, I tried legal, structural. I could not find a mature and focused and …
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54:43Chikamu 16: members. You train them to have different skills. 300s · Speaker 1
members. You train them to have different skills. So management. She's got management level now. Management. But then you have like employee. I think these guys might all be. Oh, yeah. So director, contractor. employee full -time employee i…
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59:44Chikamu 17: it's probably just him. 300s · Speaker 1
it's probably just him. If you wanted to recruit someone, it would be this guy. But then you'd have to get rid of someone because basically everyone is full now. Every property is full. So we can't... because we have you can have a maximum …
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1:04:46Chikamu 18: This is the first session where I was sad. 65s · Speaker 1
This is the first session where I was sad. And this was the first session that I felt emotion in this way. I felt tears. Thinking about my wife and Mango. Regardless of Mango, it was her being taken away from me as a parent. Something that …
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1:05:52Chikamu 19: feeling that sentiment made me sad, along with the sorrow of positive stress and the pain that my wife has felt and her perspective. 301s · Speaker 2
feeling that sentiment made me sad, along with the sorrow of positive stress and the pain that my wife has felt and her perspective. The disconnection from the desire of intimacy that she experiences. The fact that she's not receiving commu…
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1:10:54Chikamu 20: It's business, isn't it? 239s · Speaker 1
It's business, isn't it? You need debt to make money. But right now, I don't think you necessarily need it. you have like 45 million excess money plus gonna sell property plus you're about to make money now so right now i don't think you ne…