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May 12, 2026 14:05
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I don't have to call the phone.
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I'm going to call
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Vamsi and tell him that I'll be 30 minutes late.
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Okay.
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It'll call on my behalf.
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Because there are all these calling,
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AI calling apps.
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There is a tool called as Wapi.
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Wapi.
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Okay.
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Wapi.
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It has something called as,
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it has API integration.
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So, that is plugged into Jerry.
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Plus,
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11 labs,
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I have a voice.
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I don't have audio content.
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All my social media content is AI generated.
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So,
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when
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it talks, it will talk like me.
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It will sound like me,
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but it will say, I am webhouse AI executive.
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Yeah, I'll understand also.
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You'll understand.
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But people who don't know me,
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who don't talk to me,
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they will not know.
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So, I have to say.
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So,
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it will call.
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But that is not the crazy part.
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Let's say you don't pick up the phone Okay
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I have set up the guidelines that call,
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if the person doesn't pick up,
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call after five minutes.
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If the person still doesn't pick up,
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call after 30 minutes.
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Okay.
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If the person still doesn't pick up,
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if you have the email or WhatsApp,
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drop him an email or WhatsApp if needed.
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So there are tags,
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urgency tags.
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This is important.
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Make sure you call Vamsi and tell 30 minutes.
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If I just say call Vamsi and say,
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then there's one more playbook for that.
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Let's say no one.
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30 minutes late,
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you say,
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bro, do you want to eat anything?
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Let me know.
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That message could be released?
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No,
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no. You let
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me know what you want.
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If I say, yes,
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I want to eat, please order.
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Then again,
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it will call you back and tell you that.
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Crazy.
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Right?
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So, Jerry can do anything right now.
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Right?
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Let's say,
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I have a team.
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Like,
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data like analyst Chester,
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YouTube and all.
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And I was giving this example to your team.
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I treat Jerry like an actual very smart employee.
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I don't question.
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Can it do,
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can it not do?
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Let's say I want to understand what is working
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on my YouTube.
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I just tell Jerry,
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go into my YouTube because it already knows who I am.
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Context initially onboarding with HSN.
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It's a long process on OpenClock to set this up.
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Now I can just say,
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Jerry, figure out what is working on YouTube
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for me.
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And also what could be some outlier content pieces
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that I can create from my vidIQ account.
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Then it can open my YouTube with
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its own browser while I'm sleeping.
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Right.
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Or while wherever I am,
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doesn't matter.
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Then Slack or message.
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It can open my YouTube on the computer.
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on my back at my home,
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go to YouTube.
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If it understands that it can,
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it has to download those reports.
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Analytics download,
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outliers,
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whatever it needs to do.
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It can,
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it has access to its own browser.
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They can code,
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the product code.
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For example,
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data analysis.
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Data analysis found its insights.
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It has to present that data to me.
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So it has a habit of building into dashboards because that is what I say.
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Every time I ask you for data,
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always give me a dashboard,
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not a slab of text.
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So you can
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imagine, like you can think anything that you want to do.
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Yeah.
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Let's just imagine if this Jerry is a smart employee or a
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set of employees and Google employees,
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what would be the cost of them?
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Good question.
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Two ways of looking at it.
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Okay.
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You can almost run it for free.
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Okay.
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I'll tell you what it
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costs me.
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It costs me almost close to a lakh per month right now.
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I'll tell you why.
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I keep experimenting.
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Because I want to know what it can do.
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Because I want to know what it can do.
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So I keep trying a lot of things.
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Mine is an edge case.
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Okay.
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Right. I think if you would use it or someone like that will use it,
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I don't think it will cost more than 10 ,000 rupees,
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5 ,000 rupees per month.
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Depends on how much you use it.
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Now,
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you want the best out of an open claw,
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then you will spend that money and that money is going into API costs.
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The way you
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can do it for free.
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Yes, of course,
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it will not perform as well as this will do.
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But I think in one year,
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again, next time when we are talking,
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the free one will be as good as the paid one.
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And the free one is,
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like I told you,
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There's a cost to run all of this.
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The AI.
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The cost of this is AI.
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The compute,
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the tokens that AI uses.
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We need the cost of the chat GPT -1.
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And we use
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it. In the
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backend.
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What is it doing?
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It is using something called as tokens.
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Simplify it.
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In the words input,
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in the question,
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in the words,
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the answer is the cost.
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Let's say $1,
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$0 .20,
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$0 .10,
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whatever.
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That is the cost of compute.
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Because that AI model is
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running on a GPU.
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NVIDIA GPU,
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or Google Tensor Processing Unit,
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or TPU.
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And that is the cost.
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The hardware cost is what is being built to you.
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Because we don't have to worry about it.
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But today,
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AI models are becoming very,
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very smart.
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And from that AI model,
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we run into the computer.
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Not as powerful as,
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let's say, GPT 5 .4 or Gemini 3 .1 Pro or
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Opus 4 .6.
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These are three best models right now,
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right? Which are available to public at this point of time,
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right?
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Those are very big models.
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And the computer will run over.
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But if you have an email to rewrite,
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you don't have a model.
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To go and pick up Diet
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Coke in Banjara Hills with full
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traffic.
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It's better to go in a Rapido than your Ferrari.
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Correct?
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But we're using a Ferrari because we have a Ferrari.
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Right?
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Obviously,
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if you have a Ferrari,
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you should go use it.
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That's a different story altogether.
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So,
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we are using a very powerful model for things that
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you don't need it for.
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So, there was a study,
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right? 85 -90 % of the tasks need to use AI.
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Look at those
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tasks.
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80 % of them doesn't need the power of the AI model.
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Seeking information.
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This is question and answer.
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Practical guidance.
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Again,
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question and answer.
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Writing.
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Technical help.
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In technical help,
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we're including a smaller section under coding.
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Right?
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So 80 % of the tasks.
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This is the older report,
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by the way.
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This is two years old.
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OpenAI report is two years old.
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There's a recent anthropic report also,
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but very similar direction.
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Even it goes on,
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you don't need a very smart model.
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You don't need a very large model.
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Smart model is the wrong point.
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Not,
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if the model is large enough,
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doesn't make it just smart.
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Like models,
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larger models are good at everything.
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Right.
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But if you know,
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if you have a single model,
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you need coding.
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You need math solving.
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You need science.
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Because those are hard problems.
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So AI is trying to beat those things.
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But when it comes to writing,
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A small AI model,
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which can run on your computer,
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can do a 90 % of the job.
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Yesterday,
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he had a question like this.
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Okay,
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for example,
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if you have a phone,
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Google Edge AI app,
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Edge Gallery.
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Okay.
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Right.
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We will send all the links to people so you can download.
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Edge Gallery.
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A free app by Google.
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You have the ability on an Android phone.
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You have the ability to install AI models which are very small.
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For example,
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Gemma 4.
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Okay.
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Is a new AI model that came from Google.
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Which is a 1 billion parameter model.
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And the size of that model,
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hypothetically speaking,
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is 1 by 1000 of the size of Opus.
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Oh.
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Which you use.
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No,
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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It is bloody good.
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It's 80 % there.
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And 70 % there.
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Rewriting tasks,
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this message pump,
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pump it up,
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this question comes in.
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That's what it is.
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It's running on your phone.
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Internet is also running on your phone.
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I have that app installed on my phone so that if I have some work to
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be done when I'm on a flight,
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I use that model.
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That's on your phone.
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It's working for free.
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Forever.
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And it has become 10 times more powerful than it was
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one year back.
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That was Gemma 4 which dropped.
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Is it available both on iOS and Android?
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iOS could be absent.
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Okay.
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I think Gallery is only Android,
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right? Edge Gallery is of Google,
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so it's only Android.
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But iOS could be absent and then links pump it up.
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You can run your own AI,
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which is...
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probably 15 -20 times more powerful than your phone.
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Okay.
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Phone is small.
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You can run very small models.
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Laptop has...
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Every laptop has GPU.
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Every laptop has secondary memory.
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In fact, if you're using...
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Using Mac, it's even better.
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Because they do something called as unified memory.
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Danwalla,
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you can actually run 10 -15 billion parameter models.
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Which are again insanely good.
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Like, Quen 3 .5.
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Incredible model.
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Gemma again dropped recently.
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Incredible model.
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Open source model this way.
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So you can run AI on your computer without internet
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access for free for life.
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Crazy.
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You can do probably
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70 % of the things that you want to do at a very,
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very high quality without spending a single rupee.
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And for laptop, you can use a tool like Olama or some
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UI,
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there's a tool called LM studio.
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Okay.
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And the other advantage of doing this is that when you use
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an open source model,
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then advantage is
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Your information is on your computer.
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What I
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am realizing about myself,
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and everybody has to realize this about themselves as well,
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we are opening up about things with AI
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that we will not with any human in the world.
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Deepest insecurities.
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because it used to give articles now AI gives you opinion
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and on top of that AI is sycrophantic sycrophantic
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and AI is like yes bro you're
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right I trust you you're awesome right
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so we are becoming more connected because you're getting acknowledgement
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from it as it is that you end up saying a lot of things that are very
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private to you
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Like last time,
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I think around six months back,
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around 25 million or 40 million
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chat GPT chats were leaked because of a breach.
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When I read that,
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I'm like,
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I don't want my messages to get leaked,
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man. So anytime,
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I made a habit after that,
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by the way.
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every time when there is something like this,
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I will use a model which is running on my phone or my computer.
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So that the moment I delete that app,
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it's gone.
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Nobody has access to my information.
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So it could be a lot of things,
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a lot of insecurities.
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This is how I'm feeling.
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Is it okay?
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Every time I say something like this,
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I also say that I'm not recommending you all these things because
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you will do something wrong with AI.
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As a result,
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you should delete it.
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This is your privacy.
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It's your right.
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You should know that this can happen so
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that you're taking steps to make sure your privacy is protected.
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That's it.
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For example,
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OpenAI recently said that especially for kids,
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if they feel that the kids are getting towards direction of suicidal,
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they will notify their parents.
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How do they identify?
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By looking at messages,
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conversations.
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So these are kid accounts.
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Okay.
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So naturally guardian accounts.
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Yeah, guardian accounts.
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YouTube kids alone.
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Claude also said
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if you do anything illegal,
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there's a possibility that this information will get to law enforcement.
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How crazy.
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So these
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things are there and it should be there.
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That's right.
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Last time I met a client.
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That's right.
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Safety guardrails.
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Safety guardrails have come in slowly.
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And it has to come.
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There's no two ways around it.
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Of course, of course.
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And cost also,
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two quick questions.
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One is,
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see, you don't have to pay a lot on your scale.
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Let's talk about your case only.
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Versus,
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the amount spent on AI tools or AI models or subscriptions versus,
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if you want to pay a lot on your scale,
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you should pay a lot on your scale.
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Just the opportunity cost.
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I think it will be like.
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Let people understand.
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20x I guess.
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It will be 20.
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I can't even.
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So.
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And that to 24 hours with you.
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Yeah.
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Anytime.
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Array bro like.
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The kind of systems.
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That we have managed to build.
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I don't think.
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I can hire a team
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which can do it.
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The way I want it to work like.
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You know that I create content now.
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Just like you get brand deals.
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You are not creating content.
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So my face creates content.
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My AI creates content.
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He's never there in front of the camera.
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Only in this podcast.
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Actually.
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Sorry.
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So.
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that line of business also works based on brand deals.
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The brands, yeah, yeah.
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Right.
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And so,
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the more brand deals,
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the better, higher quality brand deals,
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the better it is for the whole business.
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So, we have targets.
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Let's say,
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we are doing 100 rupees,
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we want to do 1 ,000 rupees next year.
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How do you scale?
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The only way to scale is to get more sponsors.
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Sponsors,
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one of the sponsors is always there.
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If you reach out,
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you reach out.
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So what we created,
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I'll give you this example.
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We created an AI agent.
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It's called the sponsorship bot.
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Okay.
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AI agent,
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content creators,
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50 to 80 members.
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Core AI will be 10,
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10,
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15 people like me.
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Yeah.
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Adjacent will be altogether 100 people.
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YouTube, Instagram,
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LinkedIn, Twitter,
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newsletters.
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250,
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300 properties.
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My AI.
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Every single day,
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I think around 10 or 12 times they do pulse check.
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Oh.
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Watch us every single video of every single piece of content that
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has gone out in any of these profiles.
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Of those 80 plus profiles.
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Of whatever profiles.
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I think 80, 90.
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My team keeps adding.
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Okay.
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So once she AI content created on a start,
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she gets added to that list.
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Okay. Right.
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Irrespective of the language.
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I don't care.
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Irrespective of the language.
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Right.
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But we mostly have been looking for English.
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Okay.
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We have not built the engine where we are telling AI,
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