Ari Kugler

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Well, one of my jobs in my former self,

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I was a copy editor for the Aldo Group.

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When nobody had a computer,

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I had to read what people wrote by

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hand, type it,

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and then translate.

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What you wrote is absolutely beautiful.

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I'm going to tell you what my vision is.

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Like I said,

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you're very special because you're one of the few people.

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First of all, I didn't even know that you joined.

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I mean,

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to me, Ari Kugler,

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je te connais.

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You were,

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j 'étais une classe plus,

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plus âgée que moi.

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Yeah.

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Mais j 'ai jamais connu ton parcours.

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So to me, this is very special.

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Yeah,

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I went to Hebrew Academy pendant quatre ans,

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après deux ans à Thamut Torah.

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Je savais pas,

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c 'est magnifique.

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Et c 'est drôle,

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peut -être.

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You're younger than my husband,

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but I wonder if you would know him,

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because he also lived in Chamili,

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but they trekked to Talmud Torah at the

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time, at Ville Saint -Laurent.

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How old are you?

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Yeah, I'm 60.

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On va faire 62 ans cette année.

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Ah,

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OK. So he's slightly older than me.

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OK.

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Alors, je vais t 'expliquer c 'est quoi ma vision.

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On va faire les questions.

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Et je vais prendre ce que tu as mis ici.

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Moi, ma vision est comme ça.

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Quand j 'ai interviewé Jacques,

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après,

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je me suis dit,

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je vais faire yin and yang.

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Right?

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Je vais faire berline.

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It's beautiful.

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There are two graduates,

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because I tried to do men and women,

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older, younger,

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like in terms of,

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you know, graduation year.

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And then I thought,

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I had asked you,

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that I really wanted to interview you because we're going to do,

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you know,

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three generations.

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Now,

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for the month of June,

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Jack is already out.

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Perlin will be out at the end of June,

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but we make an info for the entry.

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Yes, so we're going to feature you.

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Yes,

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but then I would like to do something special with

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you three.

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Do you understand?

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And this is where it's going to come in because this ties it all

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in. It ties it together.

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You see what I'm saying?

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And this is going to be...

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Where are these things?

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Where do they live?

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No,

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where do you push?

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Like, where are you putting them?

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Because here,

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I had a conference with Yves and

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Eric Michali.

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They talked about the AI project.

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So I know

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because I follow...

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Okay, okay,

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bravo.

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C 'est une excellente question.

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Moi,

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je sais qu 'est -ce qu 'on fait le AI parce que je suis les réseaux sociaux et le directeur

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du marketing posts it.

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But maybe you don't look at your emails because on a lancé

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l 'infolettre MIMO Alumni la semaine dernière et

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il y a tout un article sur l 'IA.

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Et d 'ailleurs,

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on te met comme,

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you're the sponsor.

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You didn't see it?

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No,

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I may have seen it,

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but la vérité,

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je fais pas très attention.

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Okay,

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so I'll tell you.

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But I mean,

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it's, look.

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But the point is,

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if I'm not paying attention,

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I mean,

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whatever we're doing...

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Scroll down a little bit.

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Okay,

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so

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you know what,

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I never get that far,

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but it's still pretty...

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This is our first one.

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I think it's something...

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I think I

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had told you, on va faire le portail MIMO Alumni.

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Could I mention it?

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Or maybe Eve did?

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Yeah, maybe, yeah.

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Okay.

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No,

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but I'm thinking, get it.

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La vérité,

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surtout, c 'est EI.

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Moi, je suis de plus en plus convaincu that it's

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like, c 'est pour ça que je veux vraiment le pousser.

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It's going to change everything.

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So, but I think if you have something unique,

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ça,

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c 'est vraiment quelque chose qu 'il faut mettre dans la voie Sephora,

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the Canadian Jewish News.

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Whatever vehicle is suburban,

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I mean, n 'importe où,

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on peut avoir peut -être un auditoire.

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OK.

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OK.

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Ben, regarde,

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juste pour te dire,

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la voie séfarade pour Rochachana,

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la tombée est déjà passée.

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It's ridiculous.

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We're in June,

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they already liked,

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you know.

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Mais je vais voir.

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Tu sais quoi?

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Ce n 'est pas mauvais.

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Je vais demander.

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OK.

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So,

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shall we proceed?

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Yeah, go ahead.

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Okay.

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I'm going to ask,

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so first of all,

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okay, Harry Kubler.

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Bon, mais je sais,

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j 'ai la promotion 1981.

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J 'aimerais,

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s 'il te plaît, Harry,

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que tu me dises,

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qu 'est -ce que tu fais aujourd 'hui?

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C 'est quoi ton occupation?

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Je suis gestionnaire.

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Je fais des droits immobiliers.

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Okay.

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Okay. Okay. Okay.

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Okay. Okay.

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Okay.

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So what is this?

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This is a portrait?

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S… Speaker 1 (Ari Kugler)

Yes,

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exactly.

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So that's my

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initiative that I wanted to put forth because my job

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is to...

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Capitalize on all the sources of revenue for the school.

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No,

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I think it's great.

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The biggest source of revenue...

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The biggest source of revenue...

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S… Speaker 1 (Ari Kugler)

I think you... Yes,

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the biggest source of revenue...

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I know. How do we want people to come from our school?

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How do they know them?

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It's our visit card.

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Yes?

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Yes. Okay.

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Do you have a big list of old people?

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Right.

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It's a work in progress.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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So you know what?

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When you're finished, go through the list with me.

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There's

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2 ,300.

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Right.

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But I'm thinking of more prominent people that I might know.

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Yes, absolutely.

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So that's what I do.

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When we finish,

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I always ask,

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who could I reach out to?

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And also,

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I'm going to say,

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because, you know,

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that's what I do,

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I also ask if you know a prospect,

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a donor,

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that you could facilitate,

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that we could approach.

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Okay, alors on y va.

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Alors,

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premièrement,

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c 'est quoi la chose la plus précieuse

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que tu as reçue de l 'école Maïmonide qui t 'accompagne encore aujourd 'hui?

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I say une culture

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juive séfarade.

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So, I am very,

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very,

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very at ease.

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I

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received a call from St.

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Agathe.

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Can I hold you one second?

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I think it's the inspector of St.

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Agathe. Hold on.

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Hello?

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We're going to send you something together.

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I think it's about 4 years,

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3 years ago.

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I'm sure it was about 25 years ago.

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I don't know if you can text me in the mail

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or something.

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I'm going to send you something.

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K -U -G -L -E -R Kugler

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Kugler Kugler

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Kugler Kugler Kugler Kugler Kugler Kugler

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It's a very

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nice synagogue.

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Yes,

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that's what I thought.

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I didn't want to say because I didn't but that's yeah

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Nice. So nice.

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No good deed goes unpunished. Yes.

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Yes, so I'm very Ashkenazi.

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My father is Romain and my mother is Polish.

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From my mother,

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my great -grandmother is Canadian.

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She's from Canada since 1900.

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We're here for a very long time.

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That's why my children are sixth generation Montrealers.

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And that's why I put it in the article.

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It's like, who could have thought...

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Who would never think of my life that I

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would quitter Montreal?

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Never,

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never.

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So I never,

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never,

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ever thought of it.

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I even did the Garde Saint -Morignan,

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the Canadian Army here,

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when I was young,

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18 years old.

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It's like,

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never.

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And since the 7th October,

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we think.

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We think.

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So that's why I put a lot of emphasis on the fact that my

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mother is always extreme.

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So as we are extremists on the side,

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we have to be more and more strong in terms of tradition and Jewish values.

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It's the only way that the kids will survive.

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So I'm very convinced of that.

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Just so you know.

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And she's named after your mom,

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right? Yeah.

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My mother was a Hebrew teacher at the Sharshamayim Afternoon School.

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It was her vocation.

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She graduated from university and she became a teacher

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there until she passed away.

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So what I see,

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this trait of character,

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is that instead of leaving,

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she fought and she made it work with what there was.

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Right.

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And your daughter said something.

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But I remember,

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in your class,

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there was you,

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Tara Singer.

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Yeah, that's...

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I don't know, she's still in Montreal and Andrea Sterling.

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I

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don't remember

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Tara and Andrea.

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I don't know if they're in Montreal.

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Andrea,

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I think she's become an advocate.

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I don't know if she's in Montreal and Tara,

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I don't know.

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And I don't know,

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by the way,

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I have no idea how those girls ended up there.

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I know how I came there,

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but I have no idea how they were going.

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Because when we are young,

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it's not the kind of questions we ask.

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Right?

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For me,

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it was clear.

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They wanted to learn French.

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I guess it was the same for them.

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Well, you didn't just integrate,

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you thrived.

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I mean, you're successful.

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Yeah,

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we did well,

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thank God.

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S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

So,

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let's see,

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growing up,

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we lived in Chamonix.

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We had a

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thriving community in Chamonix when we were young.

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S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

That's where my husband went,

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by the way, when he was a kid.

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I wonder if

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you know his dad,

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Salomon Ben Dayan.

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S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

I knew Ben Dayan.

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Isaac was in my class.

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Isaac is my husband's brother.

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My husband is a few

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years older than you.

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okay you see so you're are you yeah you're isaac's age so isaac

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was it isaac also went to hebrew academy i

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don't know no or i just saw him in synagogue he

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was my age which isaac then diane

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because there's two

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I don't know.

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It's a big family.

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There were a lot.

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Yeah, okay.

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So it is my brother -in -law.

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Yeah, because there were eight kids.

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Okay.

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So,

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Vasic, excuse -moi,

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continue.

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Comment ça a façonner ton identité juive,

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l 'école Maïmonide?

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Oui.

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And when we

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got married, we were in St.

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Laurent. I was still very Ashkenaz in St.

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Laurent.

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S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

So how did you marry Sephardic?

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I love,

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by the way, what you wrote.

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It's a When Harry Met Sally story.

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S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

Oh, I love it.

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S… Speaker 1 (Ari Kugler)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (Ari Kugler)

Of course.

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Come on.

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So I tell the story.

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He was from Hebrew Academy.

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It was Henry Anzeruth.

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And his older brother,

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Ralph Anzeruth,

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was...

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He was also at McGill.

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He was a McGill engineer.

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So Ralph and my wife were best friends.

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And Henry and our best friends.

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So, I don't know,

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I was 23 years old.

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There was a party of Halloween on Queen Mary.

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So neither of us wanted to go.

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Because Graciel lived in Chamonix.

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And I lived in Chamonix a few streets away.

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And you never met?

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But we had never met.

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Oh my God, I love that.

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I love it.

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So we finally went to this store.

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We went to this party.

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I met her when she met us.

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We looked at each other.

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We started going out.

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And like a year and a half later,

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we were...

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So nice.

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So that's how we met.

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But she grew up.

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Grâce à sa famille,

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ils sont venus aussi en 64.

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They came very early.

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It is early.

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So she grew...

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She went...

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Moi, j 'ai fait ma scolarité en français.

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Elle, elle a fait sa scolarité en anglais.

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She had to go to English school.

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She didn't have a job in the Protestant schools.

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Yeah.

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OK,

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but the question,

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the Jewish identity?

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Well,

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it was, again,

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between the...

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Like,

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I came also from Iberkan,

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but I was very,

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very traditional.

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When we were there,

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I was very involved in the synagogue.

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I was already reading the Torah,

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doing the youth groups,

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doing the congregation.

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S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

No, but the question is, how Maimonides impacted your Jewish

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identity?

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So I think it just helped reinforce this...

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What was already there?

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I keep thinking of these traditional family values that

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are really at the core of everything we do today.

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S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

Yes.

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So it's...

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I had a religious upbringing,

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and we were very traditional,

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but my money really helps,

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I don't know,

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even...

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amplify the family

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-centric approach to religion.

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Even if we don't speak Hebrew,

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even if we're not super in Hebrew,

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and we're not so advanced in Gemara,

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still these core beliefs and family -centric things,

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I think that's one of the things that we really attract.

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Yes,

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that's what everyone said.

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Is there a moment of pride?

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You can choose.

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personal, professional,

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or human,

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that you would like to share to inspire the students of today?

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The students of Maïmo?

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Because you're a role model.

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Inspire the students of Maïmo.

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Yeah.

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Something that...

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I mean, you have a career,

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you have a career,

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a moment of pride where they can go,

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wow, he can do it,

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I can do it.

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The sky's the limit.

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Yeah,

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I mean,

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I was very lucky.

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I mean, I had a career.

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in technology,

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in droit,

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in technology, in IBM,

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like we had a little bit of a lot of exposure.

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I guess it was with the three children,

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the three times they had the diploma,

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like Berline and Stephanie.

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Berline in medicine,

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Stephanie in droit,

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Aaron in medicine.

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Those were very big.

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It was fierté.

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Yes.

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So beautiful.

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They worked very hard.

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They did the patinage artistic,

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I don't know if they would mention it.

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It was a big part of Aaron.

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Aaron also,

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you should talk to him.

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Even according to the term Aguil, he still did the patin.

20:58

S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

Yeah, but between us,

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I mean, they still,

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the kids still have anxiety and they're nervous.

21:03

S… Speaker 2 (Ari Kugler)

Okay, okay,

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but okay,

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it's okay.

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But they push through,

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okay?

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They didn't let those anxieties cripple them.

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And that's something to do.

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