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• Speaker 1 1:01
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• Speaker 3 1:11
• Speaker 4 2:53
• Speaker 5 1:25
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1. 0:25

   Pennad 1: Thank you. 59s · Speaker 7

   Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Oh. Oh, that's right. Okay. So, good night. Let's talk to me. Yeah. Once and each of them. Here. We're not. Gemini. Yeah.

2. 1:25

   Pennad 2: Yeah. Perkers are not here. 86s · Speaker 5

   Yeah. Perkers are not here. Thank you. And I'm going to just point out to that. I'm going to just say, let's not take it. I'm going to just take it. I'm going to just take it. I'm going to just take it. I know. Sorry. All right. Good mornin…

3. 2:53

   Pennad 3: Dr. Baldwin. 303s · Speaker 4

   Dr. Baldwin. Present. Present. Mr. Beattie. Here. Dr. Cohn. Here. Dr. Filippiak. Here. Mr. Giovanini. Here. Ms. Howard. Mr. Walsh. Here. Here. Ms. Murphy. Here. Ms. Papanicolaou. Here. Ms. Santee. Ms. Segalis. Here. Dr. Waterman. Here. Dr. …

4. 7:57

   Pennad 4: him. So there's a communication language barrier, but we've overcame that. 146s · Speaker 1

   him. So there's a communication language barrier, but we've overcame that. So this year has just been, you know, it's been a pleasure to work with him, to have him come to school, to have him ask questions if he's not sure about something a…

5. 10:25

   Pennad 5: How about another round of applause for our students? 300s · Speaker 2

   How about another round of applause for our students? All right, moving into, you probably know it's on the agenda, our next agenda item is discussions. Some districts call it discussions, some districts call it information. We've been tryi…

6. 15:26

   Pennad 6: the programs that we're currently offering and programs that might be ambitious about offering in the future but really focusing especially on that professional development piece for teachers and so that's really critical as we think about how we build capacity across our organization. 303s · Speaker 1

   the programs that we're currently offering and programs that might be ambitious about offering in the future but really focusing especially on that professional development piece for teachers and so that's really critical as we think about …

7. 20:30

   Pennad 7: particularly as we as we build upon our HVAC residential wiring program added sheet metal fabrication next year 16 or 17 programs will be dual credit at TCB the only one remaining that we're working on is auto body that's because the College of DuPage does not have a program for that we're in initial conversations with Waubonsie around articulated credit because we do have a program and so we're trying to bring some added value to that program as well but we've already expanded dual credit programming for next year we've also really focused on regional alignment many of you have been a part of our regional ecosystem meetings in which we are focusing on on horizontally in our strategic priorities as a region and thinking about what that looks like for career education of which obviously College of DuPage is a very important partner in that and so they've been present at all those meetings even hosting one of them dr. 307s · Speaker 1

   particularly as we as we build upon our HVAC residential wiring program added sheet metal fabrication next year 16 or 17 programs will be dual credit at TCB the only one remaining that we're working on is auto body that's because the Colleg…

8. 25:37

   Pennad 8: career education for the county we truly have a very multitude of things to think about that maybe a comprehensive high … 300s · Speaker 1

   career education for the county we truly have a very multitude of things to think about that maybe a comprehensive high school might not necessarily be considering or maybe they are but maybe in a different vein and so we focused on four ar…

9. 30:37

   Pennad 9: and then plan appropriately from a financial so you know going a little bit further I'm not going to read all of these y… 300s · Speaker 1

   and then plan appropriately from a financial so you know going a little bit further I'm not going to read all of these you know this has been shared with you previously but I want you to be thinking about you know in what ways do these obje…

10. 35:38

    Pennad 10: the age of their students and so we're also starting to do things more strategically in the k8 space to support elementary schools and elementary students with career awareness and career exploration and so thinking about you know how we build awareness and what marketing looks like for us I think in many ways we don't you know in some of our programs that have low enrollment sometimes the illusion might be that those student interest when in fact we might just have a marketing and communication issue and see I'm teasing some of those things apart and really exploring them more deeply and then just kind of a couple of the last pieces we want to make sure that we maximize our grant funding Dr. 183s · Speaker 1

    the age of their students and so we're also starting to do things more strategically in the k8 space to support elementary schools and elementary students with career awareness and career exploration and so thinking about you know how we bu…

11. 38:41

    Pennad 11: about objectives and track first of all you know when I tell people our plans the first thing I look for so and most str… 66s · Speaker 3

    about objectives and track first of all you know when I tell people our plans the first thing I look for so and most strategic goals you can make I love that that kids and our that's going to be an interesting exercise too just because I kn…

12. 39:48

    Pennad 12: traditional high schools even coming up with the using you have 30 scorecard metrics typically and there are a you know … 97s · Speaker 2

    traditional high schools even coming up with the using you have 30 scorecard metrics typically and there are a you know obviously across a wide variety of metrics but for a place like TC identifying what are those metrics that are most impo…

13. 41:26

    Pennad 13: partnerships at the middle school level I know that's one middle school family place I am asking a question plan for a T… 57s · Speaker 1

    partnerships at the middle school level I know that's one middle school family place I am asking a question plan for a TCD I feel like what I heard was I don't want to lose sight of what can extend to our current district this is the time y…

14. 42:29

    Pennad 14: know one of the things that jumped out to me first was that third slide the SWOT analysis you know the the board over th… 283s · Speaker 3

    know one of the things that jumped out to me first was that third slide the SWOT analysis you know the the board over the last several years have talked about so many items and I feel like this SWOT analysis like very concisely captures all…

15. 47:13

    Pennad 15: of everybody here at AOS and TCD working together to come up with this oftentimes it validates things you kind of though… 142s · Speaker 2

    of everybody here at AOS and TCD working together to come up with this oftentimes it validates things you kind of thought anyway but were there any blind spots you're like wow I I didn't see that because you had talked to so many people are…

16. 49:49

    Pennad 16: I was just gonna say the portrait of a graduate I think is I just wonder if it was a conversation do we need a mission and vision because the portrait of the portrait of a graduate the portrait of a graduate the portrait of a graduate I feel like it's that yes, it's just a wondering for the group to wrestle with unless you already did No, I'll certainly bring that back. 300s · Speaker 3

    I was just gonna say the portrait of a graduate I think is I just wonder if it was a conversation do we need a mission and vision because the portrait of the portrait of a graduate the portrait of a graduate the portrait of a graduate I fee…

17. 55:00

    Pennad 17: more clear there's going to be opportunities for corporate businesses that you know be able to invest in telling stories… 91s · Speaker 2

    more clear there's going to be opportunities for corporate businesses that you know be able to invest in telling stories around here's some amazing student stories to be told that our kids that are in work based learning experiences right n…

18. 56:32

    Pennad 18: Sagalas yes Sicardi yes Cohn yes Howard yes White of itch yes Murphy yes Jovanini Lippiac yeah Santee yes Waterman yes Walsh yes Walderman yes okay executive director report anything to add on top of what you've already shared yeah just just a couple of other things if you have not had an opportunity to watch the recorded link from our GPS series event that we hosted here last week at TCD please take an opportunity to do that we were joined by chef Curtis Duffy who has a three-star Michelin restaurant as well as a two-star Michelin restaurant in Chicago he came from a really challenged childhood and has achieved culinary stardom as one of the you know arguably one of the most famous chefs in all in all of Chicago and quite frankly in the nation he was here in person Gilda Ross that facilitates the GPS series helped to organize that event and so I want to thank Lombard for their partnership there chef Duffy came and had a really incredible message for our students just around perseverance and it was really inspiring he signed a book for every single student took pictures with them stuck around for quite a while it was really a fabulous experience so he has a lot of really great messages that resonated deeply with me and also with our students so if you have an opportunity to watch the the recording of that it's posted on the GPS website but Gilda Ross and Jerika Slade from Glen Bard do a great job and and our team here put a fabulous production around that including our multimedia students we had lights and cameras and switchboard they were doing all kinds of fancy things and so we got a great recording of that in addition to the GPS recording so we'll be sharing that a little bit more broadly we're also really excited about increased enrollment next year at TCD we've been working incredibly hard to make sure that we maximize opportunities for as many students as possible dr. 301s · Speaker 3

    Sagalas yes Sicardi yes Cohn yes Howard yes White of itch yes Murphy yes Jovanini Lippiac yeah Santee yes Waterman yes Walsh yes Walderman yes okay executive director report anything to add on top of what you've already shared yeah just jus…

19. 1:01:49

    Pennad 19: Second. Move Walsh. 196s · Speaker 1

    Second. Move Walsh. Second. Second. Murphy. Please. Beattie. Yes. Murphy. Yes. Cohn. Yes. Howard. Poitavich. Yes. Segalis. Yes. Zuccardi. Yes. Filippiak. Okay. Thank you. Santee. Waterman. Yes. Waldman. Yes. Okay, our next action item Mike …

20. 1:05:05

    Pennad 20: Take a quick pause here. 80s · Speaker 7

    Take a quick pause here. Sharon, thanks for being here. We appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah, and I just want to say thank you on behalf of HYA. What a great team. John, welcome. Slide up if you want. We're going to put you in a chair right here in…

21. 1:06:26

    Pennad 21: So at the February board meeting, we discussed Dr. 139s · Speaker 4

    So at the February board meeting, we discussed Dr. Elise's employment contract for next year in which I shared my desire to secure her into a three-year agreement with some guaranteed raises. The board requested that I share comparables acr…

22. 1:08:45

    Pennad 22: Um, I think that's a, I think talking to Mike, I think it's a great suggestion by Keith and I would support that. 61s · Speaker 1

    Um, I think that's a, I think talking to Mike, I think it's a great suggestion by Keith and I would support that. The three of us counterparts are in the nature of our conversation.

23. 1:09:49

    Pennad 23: We also discussed how critical, um, her role is with how small the administrative team is here and that the two of them. 81s · Speaker 6

    We also discussed how critical, um, her role is with how small the administrative team is here and that the two of them. And that the three of us currently discussed. be the the foundation that they're I feel like I can support either Mary …

24. 1:11:10

    Pennad 24: three-year contract could be really precedent-setting administratively and while in one sense yes Jerry and I are are th… 67s · Speaker 3

    three-year contract could be really precedent-setting administratively and while in one sense yes Jerry and I are are the primary you know lead and second in the DAOs office but we also have Sonya and you know I or whoever replaces Sonya yo…

25. 1:12:18

    Pennad 25: letter isn't a contract but effectively aren't we doing the same thing if we're giving her a letter saying that we're co… 109s · Speaker 4

    letter isn't a contract but effectively aren't we doing the same thing if we're giving her a letter saying that we're committing to two additional years of these salaries you would be saying that a little more nuanced it would be potential …

26. 1:14:08

    Pennad 26: in a year two or three I also think that and so I do think yeah my my concern was simply the precedent of what but support either as well I just don't parade the person And then in addition to that, and the experience when you have a contract, it's expensive when you're committed for some reason. 142s · Speaker 1

    in a year two or three I also think that and so I do think yeah my my concern was simply the precedent of what but support either as well I just don't parade the person And then in addition to that, and the experience when you have a contra…

27. 1:16:59

    Pennad 27: I did think it was a little hard for her sitting. 16s · Speaker 2

    I did think it was a little hard for her sitting. I was concerned about that, with respect to your change, now we have somebody else who still has a contract, want to make a change with that. So I was concerned. I do.

28. 1:18:27

    Pennad 28: Theoretically, I had a one-year this year, and so if we're worried about pressing off with a single year, evaluated how that went, and then we made a determination. 100s · Speaker 3

    Theoretically, I had a one-year this year, and so if we're worried about pressing off with a single year, evaluated how that went, and then we made a determination. On how forward for the long-term, just for what it's worth. Other thoughts …

29. 1:20:09

    Pennad 29: I think the only thing I would add, if there's the ability to put into that letter, is like, this was a new position. 88s · Speaker 2

    I think the only thing I would add, if there's the ability to put into that letter, is like, this was a new position. And I want to make sure that there's an understanding that this is valued by the Board of Education and absolutely necessa…

30. 1:21:37

    Pennad 30: Thanks for your thoughts and input and feedback and support. 202s · Speaker 1

    Thanks for your thoughts and input and feedback and support. Her impact has been incredible. We would not be where we are without her, very frankly. And so, you know, for us to continue to have sustained long-term success at the organizatio…

31. 1:25:00

    Pennad 31: out of work for extended periods of time for reasons that might not necessarily you know meet the threshold for long-ter… 73s · Speaker 2

    out of work for extended periods of time for reasons that might not necessarily you know meet the threshold for long-term leaves and sometimes sick day pools that you know especially when you put language into contracts can expose you to th…

32. 1:26:13

    Pennad 32: this is her event so something happens another they're gonna go out and ask for days or is there going to be like a pool… 68s · Speaker 4

    this is her event so something happens another they're gonna go out and ask for days or is there going to be like a pool where they ask for it once up front and then there'll be a bank of it and then once gone so I think I think it's I thin…

33. 1:27:22

    Pennad 33: compassion and understanding I agree with Jack trying to avoid us getting burned on this I also like the idea this isn't… 73s · Speaker 3

    compassion and understanding I agree with Jack trying to avoid us getting burned on this I also like the idea this isn't reviewed and approved by administration but instead of committee like a sick bank committee that that way it's it's def…

34. 1:28:35

    Pennad 34: I do struggle though that they get to the side if we only gave it couples like I don't think there's any and so knowing … 63s · Speaker 1

    I do struggle though that they get to the side if we only gave it couples like I don't think there's any and so knowing that there are enough sick days from even with like MOU because you just don't support the sick day they're not your giv…

35. 1:30:00

    Pennad 35: working to catch up so it's not that easy so i just i'll just remember right now yeah this is for two members right now … 176s · Speaker 2

    working to catch up so it's not that easy so i just i'll just remember right now yeah this is for two members right now so the first the first was uh someone who recently had a baby and they had a lot of complications with the baby that ext…

36. 1:32:56

    Pennad 36: priority level for them so in the immediate time i just want to make sure that i have it clear is your in is your ask or… 123s · Speaker 3

    priority level for them so in the immediate time i just want to make sure that i have it clear is your in is your ask or is your thought that we would be looking merely to come up with a solution for the immediate two individuals that you r…

37. 1:35:00

    Pennad 37: experiences and expertise of people at this table, so you know, I You know similar to our conversations historically about You know other items that you know, I brought proposals forward for I want to be thinking long term I don't want to just solve problems in the here and now, but there are problems that sometimes we have to solve in the here So given that Does it not make more sense to hold this what Mark just shared hold this for revisit the contract? 76s · Speaker 6

    experiences and expertise of people at this table, so you know, I You know similar to our conversations historically about You know other items that you know, I brought proposals forward for I want to be thinking long term I don't want to j…

38. 1:36:16

    Pennad 38: Yeah, how many districts here has that they're not being high our values and I definitely understand that the way that t… 56s · Speaker 7

    Yeah, how many districts here has that they're not being high our values and I definitely understand that the way that this is keys are not people

39. 1:37:41

    Pennad 39: Unprecedential set to expire when sunsets with the sick days. 126s · Speaker 4

    Unprecedential set to expire when sunsets with the sick days. This is written. This isn't for This is a one-time transfer to an individual who's already exhausted their sick days. We're not maintaining. That's correct Right, so this is I'm …

40. 1:39:48

    Pennad 40: but In order to avoid getting burned by that which I've seen as well You have to set a cap on the number of days per per… 137s · Speaker 5

    but In order to avoid getting burned by that which I've seen as well You have to set a cap on the number of days per person per year Thank you per incident because I've had people come back to the sick bank three times in the same school ye…

41. 1:42:06

    Pennad 41: quick question so am I am I understanding this right that it feels like whether we choose if if if we chose to negotiate… 139s · Speaker 3

    quick question so am I am I understanding this right that it feels like whether we choose if if if we chose to negotiate this next contract or do an MOU these two situations are not going to apply to that anyway no if I mean if you have a c…

42. 1:44:25

    Pennad 42: great clarification yes and then as an organization we certified staff administrators and then there would be banks that everyone John will how would you what do you see I typically only see this for this for you I'm just writing that song One thing I like to encourage is non-union people bring your own issues forward as opposed to we're going to collectively address administrators or people that aren't in the union. 121s · Speaker 1

    great clarification yes and then as an organization we certified staff administrators and then there would be banks that everyone John will how would you what do you see I typically only see this for this for you I'm just writing that song …

43. 1:46:34

    Pennad 43: So one path is to negotiate this next year based on their interest and do some sort of pass the hat approach now. 210s · Speaker 2

    So one path is to negotiate this next year based on their interest and do some sort of pass the hat approach now. And the way I look at that is that's going to put us in a position where we're going to be in a pass the hat mode for the next…

44. 1:50:11

    Pennad 44: I saw the risk the other way. 72s · Speaker 4

    I saw the risk the other way. I wasn't concerned about how many people donated. We're now policing the initiation of the past to happen. First, when we were talking about the pool, the union was deciding whether to contribute. So I was conc…

45. 1:51:24

    Pennad 45: That was kind of the point I was trying to make earlier. 129s · Speaker 3

    That was kind of the point I was trying to make earlier. Where I was like, we're going to be in this situation for about nine months or so or a year until we can negotiate something. I can, I can whistle by the graveyard on that. And I'm no…

46. 1:53:33

    Pennad 46: to be passed. 78s · Speaker 7

    to be passed. It is interesting that, the way you said that, John, that this becomes a popularity contest. I would propose, there's no other comments, I would propose that, we've talked about this being an interest next year for bargaining,…

47. 1:54:53

    Pennad 47: Not usually for pass the hat. 98s · Speaker 2

    Not usually for pass the hat. I see that more when there's a permanent sick bank. I've seen those provisions where, yes, you have to look at the a week or so before the sick days will be available to you. But pass the hat is usually done be…

48. 1:56:31

    Pennad 48: All right. 307s · Speaker 4

    All right. There's a lot of pages in there. So, this student is Sam. Sam was part of the group of kids for one of your students who said Sam racial slurs and made fun of them. What you had originally was a complete denial of everything. Sam…

49. 2:01:38

    Pennad 49: judge to order us to credit that with a lot of likelihood of success based upon the privilege versus right it's sort of … 199s · Speaker 1

    judge to order us to credit that with a lot of likelihood of success based upon the privilege versus right it's sort of like going to court saying I've been barred from prom judge please let me order that allows me to attend prom we get tho…

50. 2:04:57

    Pennad 50: other appeals don't think I think you would have the right to treat students differently if you're going to do any sort … 69s · Speaker 2

    other appeals don't think I think you would have the right to treat students differently if you're going to do any sort of accommodation for Sam I don't think it opens the door then everybody said well hey if Sam gets let back in you gotta …

51. 2:06:07

    Pennad 51: and the mother's statement that he has the propensity so he was he registered with us for half the day we did all the re… 89s · Speaker 1

    and the mother's statement that he has the propensity so he was he registered with us for half the day we did all the residency and everything like um I do have a question though it says that this inclined to raise so is that not an option …

52. 2:07:37

    Pennad 52: thought that's new to me I mean are you asking if there's room in the if if the board decided to put him in is there roo… 61s · Speaker 3

    thought that's new to me I mean are you asking if there's room in the if if the board decided to put him in is there room in the program is that the question uh no I think I'm gonna have to talk to our players about what we would do okay we…

53. 2:08:38

    Pennad 53: so I'm used to on the discipline side in lieu of agreements we're not going to expel you you withdraw for a period of time and you will not attempt to re-enroll until no he could say honestly I've never been I guess that that's right and it's maybe it's a little bit some of the things that I don't believe should articulate one of which that the statements would be, so I guess I just want to, I think what we're saying literally just, I think there's past practice. 138s · Speaker 1

    so I'm used to on the discipline side in lieu of agreements we're not going to expel you you withdraw for a period of time and you will not attempt to re-enroll until no he could say honestly I've never been I guess that that's right and it…

54. 2:10:57

    Pennad 54: I think based upon the decision, that's what, I agree. 65s · Speaker 4

    I think based upon the decision, that's what, I agree. Because we didn't vote on that, right? And so, and we were told that. I mean kids used to be removed for four grades. I was thinking about like a therapeutic day setting, we have the ri…

55. 2:12:16

    Pennad 55: I'm kind of stuck between it being a privilege as well, but we do have students who apply to go to DCD that we deny at home school. 62s · Speaker 5

    I'm kind of stuck between it being a privilege as well, but we do have students who apply to go to DCD that we deny at home school. There are attendance issues, and I came down on that really hard a few years ago. We, you have to attend sch…

56. 2:13:25

    Pennad 56: I mean, am I wrong on this? 94s · Speaker 4

    I mean, am I wrong on this? I feel like if we believe it's the right decision to make us to put a cap on this expulsion, for lack of a better word, then we would just need to figure that out. I don't know, like, well, we believe that legall…

57. 2:15:00

    Pennad 57: It's it makes it harder for there to be restorative. 80s · Speaker 3

    It's it makes it harder for there to be restorative. I don't think it makes it impossible for there to be restorative measures in place, and so I love it wouldn't come with an apology right the student who was affected, but that's right It'…

58. 2:16:30

    Pennad 58: As far as where we go or what would you like to see your support you? 208s · Speaker 2

    As far as where we go or what would you like to see your support you? I would like to ensure that Sam does not come back for this school year specifically I I After working through the victim with the victim and the victim's family I would …

59. 2:20:00

    Pennad 59: That is, there are very few places in which our entire county and community intersect anymore, right? 71s · Speaker 5

    That is, there are very few places in which our entire county and community intersect anymore, right? And this is one of them. And I think that upholding that value is critical to our success going forward because we have students from very…

60. 2:21:11

    Pennad 60: So the board supported not having the student return and supported the decision to have? 82s · Speaker 2

    So the board supported not having the student return and supported the decision to have? No, I would only be considering this on an individual basis. I mean, as John mentioned, like, if you wanted to know the behaviors of the others, it's p…

61. 2:22:34

    Pennad 61: Well, I think I would say to that, he wasn't treated just, like, initially because they were already. 96s · Speaker 3

    Well, I think I would say to that, he wasn't treated just, like, initially because they were already. Yeah, and so when we're letting Sam go back. They just happened to appeal. So the family just happened to appeal. So you're saying, it goe…

62. 2:24:10

    Pennad 62: Is there a time frame? 303s · Speaker 6

    Is there a time frame? Yeah, I think expired. It's shut. It's shut. We actually were intending to address this in February. The lawyer was going to be out of the country for two weeks and asked for an accommodation that we could take this u…

63. 2:29:14

    Pennad 63: enroll in the auto tech program and that subject like every other student that's subject to decisions I don't mean to put it back on 88 but that's where it would end up is that I'm sure you'll be the next one getting a phone call from the thing when's the decision going to be made on whether Sam can enroll she's looking to she's already for now or next she was just in a whole tizzy ready to transfer him but is there room in the program I guess there As of right now there is, I'm looking at, let me check. 73s · Speaker 1

    enroll in the auto tech program and that subject like every other student that's subject to decisions I don't mean to put it back on 88 but that's where it would end up is that I'm sure you'll be the next one getting a phone call from the t…

64. 2:30:28

    Pennad 64: That's here. 300s · Speaker 2

    That's here. That's exactly why she said he's enrolled here. That's what she told me during the interview process. But we already found out that that's not the solution. Yes, Sam found the bad crowd all on his own right here. I think if we …

65. 2:35:28

    Pennad 65: All in favor? 301s · Speaker 1

    All in favor? Aye. Any opposition? Okay. Thanks, everyone. Appreciate your time and engagement today. Yeah, also, I mean, I agree to, like, the whole, it does not part. Sorry. See you next time. It was done. Perfect. It's been done that I d…

66. 2:40:30

    Pennad 66: I know so well, and some of these is trying to art, so that it's definitely not going to last. 136s · Speaker 1

    I know so well, and some of these is trying to art, so that it's definitely not going to last. And I totally said, I do team, but I'm okay. Yeah, so it's, like, hate is coming over the door. We have no access to anything. That could come up…