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Jun 29, 2026 23:11
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Okay, you'll still be able to catch it in lab.
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Today is an all -day workshop.
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That means we'll be going until about 4 o 'clock,
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4 .30,
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with two 15 -minute breaks and an hour for lunch.
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So you'll have a chance to go potty and eat and stuff like that.
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We will have a live Q &A webinar with Ryan this
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coming Thursday.
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And that's at 1 p .m.
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Central Standard Time.
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Yeah,
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I know. It's like, where are we in the United States?
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Central Standard Time.
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And then we also have a live critique webinar on the 16th.
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That's next Thursday,
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also at 1 p .m.
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We like to keep things consistent.
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And the end of this 10 -day execution cycle will be
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May 18th.
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And that's when you're going to have your deliverables out.
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And Ryan will get into a little more detail on that as we go along.
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So in between those live webinars is your chance to work
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on what we're going over today,
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to go into our Facebook group,
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Elite Commons,
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and ask questions and reach out to your fellow lab members and get their perspectives.
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So please be sure to join the Elite Commons Facebook group as
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well anytime today or throughout the execution cycle if you haven't already.
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So let's go ahead and get this thing started.
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Our instructor needs no introduction,
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but I will just say that he is the co -founder and
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CEO of Digital Marketer Ryan Dice.
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Thank you.
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Appreciate it.
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Welcome elite members who are watching from home or office virtually.
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And welcome everybody who is here at the Digital Marketer headquarters in Austin,
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Texas.
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So excited that you're here.
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And I'm really excited to be talking about this subject,
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how to architect a brand blueprint that builds.
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authority if you had told me uh a few years ago that
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i was going to be standing on a stage teaching a workshop about branding i
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would have said uh you're wrong and stupid and don't ever say that
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about me again because for the better part of my career um i
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felt like branding was this kind of unnecessary
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optional extra that only the big dumb companies focused on that really the only
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thing that actually mattered uh what really is going to move the needle
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is demand generation,
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direct response.
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Can you get traffic?
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Can you convert that traffic?
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That was the whole reason that when we launched our conference,
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Traffic and Conversion Summit,
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we called it Traffic and Conversion Summit,
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because we literally would say traffic and conversion,
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because they're the only two things that matter.
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Nothing else really matters.
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after over a decade of doing this and after seeing some of the changes
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that have been happening over the last few years,
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much of what we're going to talk about,
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I can tell you that today,
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yes, while generating traffic and converting that traffic,
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while demand generation and direct response,
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while these tactics that do move the needle,
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that do generate sales,
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while those are critical,
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they're table stakes.
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You have to have them.
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The true advantage that we have,
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the moat that we as marketers have to build around our businesses is
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brand brand is as we're moving forward brand
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is going to be the unique advantage that we have if we want to grow in a time when
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all products are being commoditized
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when competition is fiercer than it has ever been,
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and when the idea of differentiating yourself is becoming increasingly more
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difficult and complex,
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and we're going to get into a lot of that.
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So I'm glad that you're here.
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I really am.
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I'm glad that you're here.
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And whatever stage you are in business,
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if you're just getting started,
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then congratulations,
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you're going to get this right from the get -go.
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If you've been in business for a little while now,
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and you're finding it difficult to scale yourself.
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and in particular to scale your marketing because gosh you've been the
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one who's writing all of the emails and now you need to hand it off to somebody else or you've
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been the one crafting all of those sales letters and and and you've
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been the one on camera maybe you're the face of the business maybe you are the business right you'd like to hand that
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off to somebody else but every time you try it just sounds so inconsistent
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it doesn't sound like you and it feels forced right
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You're going to benefit from this,
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and you're also going to benefit from it if you have a legacy company,
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and maybe some of that spark that was there at one point
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is now gone.
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Or if you work for a legacy company that,
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gosh, there was a time when they just seemed so cool,
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and now they don't anymore.
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Now they're kind of old and crotchety and yelling at clouds,
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right?
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If you've got the brand equivalent of that,
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we're going to show you how to reclaim some of that gold.
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So whatever stage you're in in business,
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you're definitely in the right place.
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And this definitely matters.
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It definitely matters.
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This is not maybe as tactical and sexy as going out
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and writing amazing Facebook ads that generate super cheap
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clicks that turn into customers.
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This is every bit as essential,
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no matter what stage you're in.
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So some of what we're going to be covering.
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Talk about the core concepts of branding and positioning and why most companies get it wrong,
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especially when it comes to branding.
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I mean,
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I see a lot of branding and positioning experts,
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and when I hear them talk about stuff,
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it's like, that just is wrong.
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The way that you're going about it is wrong.
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It's unhelpful.
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It's going to wind up just in a book somewhere that nobody's going to read or use.
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It's just not what actually matters and what actually works.
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We're talking about how to craft a compelling brand blueprint that attracts ideal
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prospects and positions you top of mind in your category.
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And that's the thing that ultimately you're going to be building while we're here,
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is a brand blueprint.
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We're going to be working on this document throughout the day.
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You're going to be working on it throughout the week during this execution cycle.
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But this is going to be a document that is going to live and grow with your company.
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So as your company grows and changes,
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this document will grow and change as well.
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Let's talk about the five steps to reverse engineering authority,
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because you cannot have a brand unless you have authority.
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A brand without authority,
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a brand without soul,
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is called a logo.
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You can get those pretty cheaply on 99designs.
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So five steps to reversing engineering authority and why it has nothing to do
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with faking it until...
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You're making it.
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And also how to codify your brand's voice so you can scale without losing
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your identity and soul.
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One of the biggest questions that I get asked all the time is how were you able to transition from Ryan
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Dice, the brand,
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to digital marketer?
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and still maintain that same kind of soul.
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I mean, I hear it all the time,
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like, wow, you know,
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I love Digital Marketer.
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It's so human.
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You know,
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you seem so real.
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You seem so down to earth.
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I'm going to show you exactly why that is.
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I'm going to unpack,
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you know, some of our dirty little secrets.
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It's not dirty, actually.
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That's hyperbole.
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It's actually quite a clean and enjoyable secret.
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So the goal is by the time we're finished,
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you'll have a brand blueprint that positions your company as the obvious authority in virtually any market.
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That's what we want.
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We want you to be perceived as the obvious authority.
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When people think of a category,
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they think of you in a good way.
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All right,
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that's the goal.
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So let's talk about why brand matters.
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Why does brand matter?
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I touched on this a little bit in the introduction,
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but brand matters because the marketplace right now is noisier
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than ever.
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Is anybody alone in their space?
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Is anybody without?
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Competition.
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I remember when I launched my very first website online,
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I sold an e -book on how to make your own baby food.
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It's a long story.
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If you've heard me talk about it,
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it's fine.
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It's not really worth telling here.
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But yeah, the very first product that I sold online was an e -book on how to make your own
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baby food.
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It was a crappy e -book and an ugly website with terrible sales copy.
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But I sold it.
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I sold a couple of these little e -books every day just about for about 14 bucks
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a pop.
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Now,
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for a kid in college,
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that'll...
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pay some rent checks,
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right? That'll get some work done.
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I mean, it was one of the ways that I was able to pay for college.
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It was one of the ways that I was ultimately able to buy my now wife an engagement ring,
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if you've heard that story,
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right? It all started with this crappy little ebook on how to make your own baby food.
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Now, the thing about it is if I were to implement that same model today that I implemented
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almost 20 years ago,
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hasn't been that long,
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but it wouldn't work because look,
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Google how to make your own baby food and you're going to see tons of stuff way better for free in
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abundance out there on the internet.
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YouTube, blog posts,
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everything.
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The noise is fiercer than it's ever been.
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Back then I was the only one.
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I was the only one really even talking about it.
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Blogs didn't exist.
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This is 1999.
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There was no such thing as a blog.
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Amazon was a thing,
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but there weren't e -books yet.
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Kindle didn't exist.
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Google was still a science fair project.
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That's not the world we live in.
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We have to acknowledge that.
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We have to acknowledge that right now,
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The marketplace is noisy.
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Buzz Sumo posted this,
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talking about the number of articles published.
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This is just an example related to Bitcoin.
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All right,
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so let's look at a hot subject.
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So back in,
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you know, 2016,
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if you were talking about Bitcoin,
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you were kind of kicking it all by your lonesome.
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Then 2017,
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it got worse.
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By 2018, it's absolutely absurd.
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By the end of 2018,
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2019, I don't even want to know where it is.
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It doesn't matter.
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These all still exist.
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It's noisy.
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They also talked about artists articles published on content marketing compared
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to shares.
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This is what's truly frustrating and tragic as The amount of content
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published goes up the number of shares goes down Because
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you know why we share things we share things because it makes us
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look interesting we share things because it makes us look
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smart
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We share things because we get to look novel.
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We get to be that person who found this thing.
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Well, when everybody has found it,
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there's no benefit to sharing it.
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So not only is there more noise,
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but things are getting shared less.
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So the more work that we're doing,
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it's having less effect.
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I'm not saying that you don't do content marketing.
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I'm not saying you don't publish it.
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It's just this is the reality.
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Showing up is no longer good enough.
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In 1999,
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when I built my first website,
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when I sold my first product,
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showing up was absolutely good enough.
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absolutely is good enough now it is not the other big trend
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challenge that we're dealing with is customers just simply don't care they don't care
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they look at anything you're doing you think it's great they go man seen it before seen it
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before we at the most recent traffic
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and conversion summit we had sir Richard Branson come out and
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speak and
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obviously one of my business heroes when you're talking about somebody who started i'll say like
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11 billion dollar plus companies i mean this is a significant figure
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and we're back in the green room area kind of hanging out and my son
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He was 12 at the time,
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now just turned 13.
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He was back there with us,
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first time he was able to come out to the event.
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And so you've got kind of me and some members
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of the team, Richard Lindner,
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who's president,
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digital marketer,
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Roland Frazier, my business partner.
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My wife and my son are also back there.
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And so you've got Sir Richard Branson there.
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And my son,
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he's trying to make conversation with my son.
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And my son just could not care less to be talking to this person because
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he was not a video game.
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Right?
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He wasn't.
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But you know what?
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It's not that different for adults.
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It's not that different for your customers.
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Your customers are all 12 -year -olds.
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All right?
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In some way,
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shape, or form.
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The second that we're not instantly entertained and engaged,
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what do we do?
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We get on our phone and we play our favorite game.
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Or we get on our phone and we play our favorite game,
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which is called scrolling through Facebook or Instagram.
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Right?
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We all behave that same way towards things that should be more significant
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in our lives.
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This is a significant moment.
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This is really, really important.
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What do they say?
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Meh.
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It's Richard Branson.
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Meh.
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It's a product,
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a service that could change your life.
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You know that big challenge that you're dealing with,
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thing that's keeping you up?
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Look, here's an ad that's going to check that box.
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Meh.
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That's where they are today.
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Average landing page conversion rate,
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2 .35%.
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This is across all different types of landing pages.
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You may be thinking,
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mine's way better than that.
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That's fine.
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Is it better now than it was a year ago,
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two years ago?
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Or are your landing pages,
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like basically everybody else I know,
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getting slightly worse from a conversion rate perspective every year?
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Are you getting diminishing returns?
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Because they're going,
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meh. I've seen it before.
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I've seen it before.
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The average Facebook organic reach.
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2011,
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you looked really smart if you were doing Facebook stuff.
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2011, you could post stuff on Facebook and something weird happened.
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People saw it.
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2012,
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down to 16%.
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2013, 12%.
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2014,
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6%.
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In 2014,
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you still looked halfway smart.
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Posting stuff organically on Facebook 2015 2 % 2016 1
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% 2017 it kind of stopped Mattering
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to even track this at 0 .5 % the line just becomes invisible.
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So this only goes to 2017 But it ain't like it went up.
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All right 2018 it was worse right now.
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It's even more worser.
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All right
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This is the reality.
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This is what we are facing today.
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And we're also dealing with a power shift in the marketplace.
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And this is what I mean by the power shift.
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This idea that it used to be the companies
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who won were the companies that had all the supply.
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I'm seeing enough gray hair in this room.
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Y 'all remember Blockbuster?
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Some of you do.
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Some of you don't.
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Do you remember Blockbuster?
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Do you really?
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Be honest.
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You've heard of it.
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You don't remember it,
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right? It's like when people like have you you know,
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you ever read you know this book like I have read it.
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No you haven't You bought it.
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You haven't read it The blockbuster the
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cab companies right in the past what we needed to succeed In
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business was to own the supply.
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We got the stuff that you want.
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That is not the case anymore.
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It is now a demand based economy
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It is who owns the demand,
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right?
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And that's why Netflix kicked the crap out of Blockbuster while Amazon kicked the crap out of Borders,
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right?
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It's no longer about having the supply,
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right?
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Supply is infinite.
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It's everywhere.
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Again,
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1999,
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why did I win selling a book on how to make your own baby food?
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Because I had the supply.
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I've got the information.
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You don't.
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If you want it,
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it's $14 in an unformatted crappy PDF,
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right?
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You want it.
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Here it is.
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It's $14.
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Now you get that information in infinite supply So
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who wins the people who are able to control the demand my?
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Good friend David cancel who's the CEO of drift taught me this.
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It's actually their chart I love this quote companies can no longer differentiate on features
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in a world of infinite supply brand is
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the only true marketing advantage In a world of infinite supply
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in a world where everything is only always available
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everything's always pretty good right how are you gonna win
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oh well we've got a feature that's a little bit
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better than our competitions not good enough not good enough I
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remember we had somebody we've got a higher -end mastermind group called
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war room and this is made up of all people they their businesses need
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to be generating at least a million dollars in revenue most the folks in there are 10 million up we've got
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a couple billion dollar companies I remember this was a number
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of years ago this had to have been well i'll tell you what will date it um the
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ipad had just come out right so i don't remember what year that was
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but it was called a while ago so we were hosting a um we're
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hosting a warren gathering and one of our members a long time member said
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i've got a friend of mine and i think he could be a really great member
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Phenomenal entrepreneur, exciting person.
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Can I bring him as my guest?
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And usually we don't allow members to just bring guests.
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But this was, again, a longtime member,
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a founding member.
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We really trust him.
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We really liked him.
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He vouched for this person.
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So we're like, OK, fine.
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We'll make an exception.
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So this person shows up for the meeting.
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And he seemed cool.
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Seemed totally normal.
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And had some decent ideas.
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Again, had been successful.
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Had,
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I believe, sold a company the year before and was trying to come up with what his next thing was
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going to be.
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And so we said,
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okay, so it was his turn to go around and talk about his business,
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kind of get some feedback.
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We said,
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all right, so what's your business?
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He said, well, it's pretty exciting.
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I'm not going to tell you what it's called.
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I won't tell you what we're doing.
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We're like, okay,
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I'm intrigued.
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Go ahead.
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He said,
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well, how many of you have heard of the iPad?
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And only 100 % of human beings on planet Earth had heard of the iPad at that point.
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It had just come out.
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It was a really big deal.
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He said, okay,
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this whole thing,
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the tablet movement.
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It's going to be huge.
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This is the next big computing,
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mobile,
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all this other stuff.
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I mean, he painted this whole picture about why tablets were such a big deal.
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But he said, but I'll tell you,
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Apple has got it all wrong.
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They've got it all wrong.
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They're completely missing the boat.
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See, I found this supplier out of China that can produce the exact same thing as an iPad.
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And we're talking about a great device,
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looks good.
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But we've got twice the megapixels on the camera and
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a USB slot.
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Boom.
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That's how we're going to win this game.
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Screw you,
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Apple. I'm going to come out of nowhere.
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You know why?
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USB,
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more megapixels on the camera,
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a little bit more storage.
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But here's the thing.
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You know what we're going to call our device?
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The Orange.
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They're Apple.
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We're the Orange.
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Because if you're comparing apples to oranges,
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we're going to win.
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Why?
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Because we got more features.
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I thought the guy was joking.
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I literally laughed.
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He wasn't.
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He was quite angry.
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I kind of felt bad.
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We're going to talk about why Apple won and continues to win,
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sometimes having inferior products,
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not having the same features,
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because it doesn't have to do with feature set.
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That's not why you win.
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In a world of infinite supply,
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brand is the true marketing advantage,
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and that's why Apple won.
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So if you think that,
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oh, we're going to win because we're a little bit better,
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you're wrong.
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There is no space for a little bit better.
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If you think,
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okay, okay,
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here's how we're going to win.
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We're going to win by being 10x bigger.
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10x better.
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