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Let's do this then.

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Let's take a pause.

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I might just nip to Lou,

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get a cup of coffee.

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Maybe a cup of tea.

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Two minutes.

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Maybe I will actually make a cup of tea.

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And let's just do it fast because

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I appreciate we've talked a lot,

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but if you just guide me,

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because actually I think this sort of thing,

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if we've done enough of the beliefs and also whatever I put

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in the paper,

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because actually I was interested when I wrote in the paper,

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I was like,

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or maybe that was value I wrote things that I wouldn't normally write but I think because you

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said that you actually live by and I was thinking well this is actually what I do so rather than just

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thinking well what am I believing all the lovely things I was like well this is how I live yeah

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this is I guess and that's better and what's interesting that comes out of the

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values exercise often the values that we get to in the in the exercise aren't necessarily

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the things that you would consciously turn to first of all

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yeah because actually we're looking at behaviors

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rather than the cognitive expression of that is where we need to get to okay

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okay so let's do that so let's see if we can do it

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we can also come back to that i just feel like let's just get it done yeah i don't

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have a hard cut off at 12 either oh if you were like me neither so if

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you're fine okay as long as the energy is here i'm happy so i'm

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just because i was like god i just sort of feel like i've just released some like i felt really constant

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emotional then i feel like i just released something so it's like

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with that acknowledgement i'll just let's just move you need

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to help me manage you need to manage me because obviously i can just go as i've

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described and this is what i mean by the disney positions i'm really focused and

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really fuck off focus which i think is also why when someone says a dress

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it's like oh if i'm in that mode i might be the exploratory and

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in a world of possibility but in another position which i know that i can

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go to yeah and there's evidence very much in my

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corporate career if I get fucking shit done yeah years

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ago someone like a target actually they were like you're really good at executions you're a big thing and

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at the time I was almost offended I was like I'm ready for strategy but

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now I recognize she was like you fucking get hard shit done and not everyone

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can you're not just talking about concepts you get fucking it done

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And she said,

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you do, that's really hard.

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I think that's really easy.

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Really interesting,

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isn't it?

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Yeah. So I can switch into that mode as well.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I'll see you in a second.

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Okay.

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I'm

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so sorry.

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Books

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are not.

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No one's here.

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How can

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I...

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Okay.

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Hi.

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Oh,

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you're there?

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I'm here.

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Yeah, I'm sorry.

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I turned my video off,

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but I'm here.

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Oh, it's okay.

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Hi.

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I'm just saving the door for a minute.

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It's like, it actually feels fine when you're in here.

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It's just walking in.

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It's like, there's no AC or anything in this room that I'm in.

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It's just like quite...

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What?

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It's not even a bit stuffy when you walk in.

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A bit stifling.

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Yeah.

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Anyway,

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you all right?

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Yeah,

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I'm all right.

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That was longer break than I was thinking I was going to read that anyway.

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No,

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no, no, it's absolutely fine.

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Okay.

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So I've just

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been making a mess with my row,

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but with good reason.

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Okay, fine.

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What I've started to do is

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group similar post -its together in terms of

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themes.

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So just to talk you through.

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So these are...

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I can't see them by the way.

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I can't see the words.

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It's really funny on my screen.

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So the bottom right hand of your screen,

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you should have a zoom button.

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Can you zoom it?

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Oh yeah. I can't now.

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I've tried earlier now.

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Now how do I move them on the screen?

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Okay.

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You should just be able to,

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if you sort of put your mouse on the screen,

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you should just be able to...

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Yeah, no,

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I've got it.

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Okay,

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cool.

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Mine's touchscreen,

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which does make it a little bit easier to navigate.

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But I know there is a...

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Mine isn't

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touchscreen.

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So if you look on the bottom,

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there's a bar.

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No,

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I've got it.

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It's okay.

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You've got it.

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Okay, cool.

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Fine. Can you see my cursor?

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Yeah,

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yeah. Okay.

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So yeah,

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so I'm just going to talk you through the little groups.

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And I just want you to sense check that the sort of groups I brought together are...

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largely correct and then we can start moving them over

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into the hierarchy because now we are in mission mode

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right we are in let's just get this shit done mode right that the energy yeah okay

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yeah let's get shit done i've got this mug that

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just i just picked up i realized it says we're never gonna stop i feel a bit

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like that

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Well, hopefully we are going to stop.

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In the bigger picture,

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we're not.

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In the bigger picture,

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we're not. We keep going.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So what I've got actually moved.

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So over on the,

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where's my,

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yeah,

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what I've got over here on the right,

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I've got the world is full of possibility.

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Sonder,

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everything changes.

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There's always a way.

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These feel like quite big beliefs that sort of sit at the top of everything.

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So I've grouped those together.

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Then just to the left of those,

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we've got the piece around like we're all walking icebergs and

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there's all this sort of stuff that's kind of connected that sort

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of sits underneath or is connected to that.

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We've got presence,

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I think,

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sits on its own.

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And I think there might be more beliefs here.

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This is beautiful what you've written,

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but I wonder if there are some stronger beliefs around that that we can perhaps draw out.

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Not my dad thought the way.

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My dad is a core inspiration,

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actually.

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His way,

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his way of being,

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actually,

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was something

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in that.

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Yeah, but just not just all round.

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You know,

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he was someone who I think a lot of people

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aspire to being like that.

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Yeah,

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it's hard.

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well I don't think it was him actually but I think it also comes from probably a very

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secure upbringing and you know a

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career that kind of landed out of nowhere then then evolved in something that

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was kind of landed out of nowhere plus you know stability and

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you know who knows he had sort of rich in life

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but just kind of gone just you know yeah just

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many things about that man it's kind of incredible he sounds

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like a wonderful man he's a wonderful dad for sure we've

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then got these two pieces which is we're all different and fundamentally the same and the tension piece

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yeah um

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yeah i think this is kind of connected isn't it that you can be in partnership in

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real partnership but you're two still two individual holes

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Yeah, and I think that tension piece in there,

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okay, the and.

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That's very cliche.

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I don't know why I'm doing this annoyingly.

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But that's life,

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isn't it?

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There's always a tension.

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It's like,

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I think this,

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maybe I didn't put it,

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but maybe just in a global perspective,

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the polarised view that something has to be this or that.

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Maybe we can write that,

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this or that.

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It's never just this or that.

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there's always nuance i think i live in the world of nuance to be honest with you

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which is probably worth it you know we do have to be reductionist

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sometimes and obviously just like literally communicate and i'm sure i can cut

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you all that shit as well uh yeah but it's

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like but really yeah okay

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a lot of tensions going on and i think when you can align the

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tensions within the person

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is actually when you really get the like the flow and then you go do

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you know what I mean which is what I think we're doing swimming here so maybe

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it's like yeah maybe there's something there actually and I think that is something

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of the work because we all have we can have competing cars can't we and

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then one part can keep us back but actually when we can sort of integrate them

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it's almost like melting the iceberg and it sort of becomes one and then everything

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becomes really easy

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you know things just arrived like think of something and it just appeared

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I mean it's quite I imagine that you've been in that you've

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you've experienced that it's like it's like I've actually freaked myself out

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like I think when I started this work I that was it I just think

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things and they just show up and then I was doing all this stuff with people and I actually started to kind

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of

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you know so this is just fucking weird i feel weird this is what's going

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on but actually i think that was actually like hyper consciousness and well maybe

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not that but like in the flow like really being in the flow just me it's like yeah things

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just work out thunder and it's just yeah it's

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thunder there's also serendipity isn't

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it it's the well i wonder like that i

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wrote it in

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I mean, I think of it as like,

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or how I read it,

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and it was singing Grant that Professor,

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I forget his first name,

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Professor Grant anyway.

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It's like the idea that everyone

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is walking around,

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it's like the iceberg concept.

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You know,

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what you see in humans,

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like everyone's got shit going on.

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So don't just assume that that person that looks fabulous or sounds fabulous

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and has got everything going on also doesn't have the tension of,

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you know,

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the pressure, what goes with that position.

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It's also,

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yeah,

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that everyone

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is living in their very vivid,

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very own world and that you're the

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background character and everyone else is in the world.

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And so it's this sense of,

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yeah, no, I like that.

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yeah you know what the character piece when i was reading it again i just thought let me just look this

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up again i feel like i quoted it quite um

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and like the character piece yeah you know everyone

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just focused on themselves ultimately yeah obviously no it's that's not not

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all that's not true fully either yeah

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and you know what so much there's a lot of rhetoric around like your main character energy you're the

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main character your main character but there's something quietly reassuring

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about the fact that but in someone else's life you're not you're the back like there's just

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something like this sense that we don't constantly have

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to be the best version of anything that there are times when we can

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be like the supporting act i don't

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i don't i'm not articulating it well but just sort of this idea like the recognition it's a

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What's coming to me is awe.

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A lot of my work is grounded in awe,

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the theory of awe.

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One of

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the functions of awe is that it creates a sense of transcendence and

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the recognition that we are this whole beautiful

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complex being.

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in amongst a whole beautiful complex world and it's it's quite humbling

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and i think sonda

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is is sort of similar it's it's the kind of recognition that

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everyone like there is all this complexity and everyone is kind of um

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as you say kind of living

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their lives and moving through the world with everything like that there's just all this

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i think it connects to possibility

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there's all this possibility like a passing encounter with a stranger could open up

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so much just i think

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i think you're giving you're giving me a different slightly different angle of this actually i think

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it's like i think i always think it's sort of in the frame of we're all different we're all the same

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and don't assume that what

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you see which is the tip of the output is actually the whole of that person just

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because someone looks like they're living their best life

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doesn't mean that also I've got the tension of carrying xyz or

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actually having a shit show you wouldn't know people don't tell you people tell

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me it's like everyone thinks I'm fine everyone thinks I'm fabulous this

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is how I feel this is what's going

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or you know everyone dumps their shit on me and I'm the one who's fine and

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they think I can and actually actually I feel like shit as a result you know

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or really anxious

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you know burning out or you know all of so that's sort of okay

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okay but yeah it'll it'll look but i think that's

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an interesting probably like the true meaning like you

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say the word is interesting i like the fact you say possibility there as well

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okay okay focus

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so anyway we've got like the bigger picture stuff here we've got the sort of the

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walking iceberg stuff which is kind of all connected and i think this is going to go further down

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the list because it's much more sort of connected to what you do the this

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is around nuance and polarization and different but the same here

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then we have just sort of general outlooks

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of life you know joy and humor matters fairness matters but it might not

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look kind when it is disagreeing i don't i i'm just gonna

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I don't think that's a general,

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just like a casual general outlook.

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I fundamentally think there is

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no point in living if you don't have a

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point.

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Like,

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yeah.

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Like,

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honestly, I think,

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what is the popping point?

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So it goes very

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high.

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Is that not?

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I agree.

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I think that's why it's different because I think you,

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I think.

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What you just said feels so much more powerful than what you've written

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here.

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I think...

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Here we go.

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Here we go.

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So I think it's sort of like,

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almost like if there's no joy,

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what's the point?

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Like joy,

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like, or like joy...

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It makes me feel sad,

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as I know you say that back.

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It's like, I think...

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Life needs joy.

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I mean, it's not like,

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oh, God, everyone,

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you know, you've been in a constant state of joy and,

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like, happiness and,

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like, striving for some ridiculous...

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It's not that.

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There's, like,

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generally,

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like,

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I think I have a really strong belief.

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I'd really rather be dead.

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I know this sounds a bit morbid,

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but I think I'd rather be dead than just,

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like, living some...

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Like, the worst in death for me is,

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like, living a life that's,

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like, meaning,

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like...

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meaningless or like just

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drudgery day to day or like just no

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light or joy but i just started reading a book that is i was

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just thinking god this is actually gonna be really hard to read because it

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sort of speaks to that i think and then and then my first thought

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in fact before i started i just wanted to hear someone talking about it was like oh now now i have to

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solve this

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Like, because my first instinct is on this board somewhere.

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It's like, I always go to the soul.

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Then arrogantly,

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I'm thinking,

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oh, I can support the government.

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I'll figure this out.

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Like, my brain goes to,

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there must be a way.

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Oh my God,

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that's the belief.

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Okay,

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there's a living example.

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Someone was talking and then they were saying,

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it's like a government thing.

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It's like, well, it's about housing,

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actually.

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But they were like,

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people in the system.

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the government and people who are living it they're like they've got to the point that they can't so

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there's no hope and then I'm like my brain has

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already like started like there must be a way there must be a way it can't be and then

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it's like what's the real problem the problem is never the problem what's the real problem

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we can identify that and then I'm thinking

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coach to be honest to god but actually

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i'm gonna read it and i'm gonna i know he's like email me and i'm sorry i will email but part

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of me already is like oh fuck do i do i need to figure out this problem you

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know it's maybe a bit ridiculous and like i say it sounds a bit arrogant but it's like but

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then i'm thinking but that's a word

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maybe i can i don't know anyway i don't want to like lose focus but

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it's like you should definitely send the email and you should definitely read it and you should definitely email her back yeah

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well i need to read it and annotate it and like but i mean i mean i just

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see but i was having a visceral response it's like really like really fucking honestly

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i think it's an insight into a world that does not have joy

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and personally i'm like i i would have killed myself i know i

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just like or or

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I would have done,

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probably not done that.

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I'd actually just found this,

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I would have found a solution.

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And I would have done this cup thing,

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wouldn't have given up,

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I think.

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But you don't know,

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do you?

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So I think these,

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I think, I'm going to shut the door because it probably sounds like a complete twat.

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No,

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no, no.

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Okay.

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But I think

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I really, yeah,

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I feel like that's not a light thing to me.

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So joy is big.

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Yeah.

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It's joy.

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And maybe purpose.

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What did I also put?

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I think it's like having a,

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to be honest,

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I mean, partly like when I think of like going through

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life or not having close partnership,

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I think what's the point?

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I've struggled with that at moments in more recent times.

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So,

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but then it's like,

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no, okay,

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keep doing the work.

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Don't stop.

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And I'm just like.

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oh it doesn't it doesn't like this and there we go

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we're never gonna stop okay right we need

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to start getting these in order so basically we've got okay we've

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got sort of i think joy purpose and meaning our life a world without joy is

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not worth living

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Another note on this,

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we're going to get the essence of this narrative here.

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Part of the work you're going to do afterwards is to re -articulate it.

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So write it in a language that feels right to you.

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And that will look like essentially a bulleted list.

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The narrative you'll just write in bullets.

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I'll give you examples of kind of what we're aiming to.

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But the idea is that once we read this rough version back,

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what I want it to feel like is recognition,

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not something new.

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I want you to feel like you are seeing your belief system reflected back

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to you.

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yeah okay so we've got

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joy purpose and meaning our life a world without joy is not worth living bit

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dramatic but the essence of it

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is that in essence what you said then so i'm just capturing it and putting it in there i

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think the next level belief is that the world is full of possibility i think that

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sits underneath that and i think even though you've said

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what you need is sometimes less possibility more outcome

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I feel like that at the moment for sure.

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You have to be able to see the possibility to create

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the outcome.

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Right.

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So it's about the duality.

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It's about being able to hold both.

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The world is full of possibility.

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And I do think you believe that,

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but also a big part of this work,

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but also your work.

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is to say okay this is the particular possibility that we are going for

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now we need to zone in on what needs to happen and what needs to shift and what

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needs to change but to enable that possibility to be reached for you

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yeah and i recognize and actually when i was doing the questionnaires

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and stuff i recognize that because not everyone not

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everyone can get passed

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the sort of woods of where they are now or the current situation

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or think well it's this or this because that's what I know then it's like breaking those

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paradigms into there's always like loads of possibilities if

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you know and they may not be the right ones but it's like there's never just one way

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there's always a fuckload of ways but it's like what's the right way for you yeah and that's

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problem solving partly I mean it's not my job as a coach to problem solve but I think having that

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lens is like

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truly believe there's always a way and i've kind of lived it and i and obviously

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the top down works as a coach doesn't

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it because then if you if you can if you're really open to possibility

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then it's easy to hold a space for someone without limits rather than well

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i can only see what i can see the

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world is full of possibility is the vision piece and you are a vision hole

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yeah that's nice okay so

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next belief down then let's have a look um

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the world is full of possibility but also everything

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changes and this is life does that is that sit very high is that up

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there is that sort of a a principle well

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are we looking at the hierarchy yeah

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so we've got sort of everything changes this is life literally well

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this is true this is like everything does

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um there

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is always a way does is that a very does that sit up here do

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we think this is there is always a way no that feels like it's like lower because

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obviously there are things in life that you know someone dies you

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know some things do have limits yeah you know that guy

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living in a in a flat with mold is probably not going to be an astronaut

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this um yeah but have you really wanted to

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at some point he might have got from a coat or in the realm

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