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Chương 1: Let's do this then. 148s · Speaker 1

Let's do this then. Let's take a pause. I might just nip to Lou, get a cup of coffee. Maybe a cup of tea. Two minutes. Maybe I will actually make a cup of tea. And let's just do it fast because I appreciate we've talked a lot, but if you ju…
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Chương 2: Okay. I'm so sorry. 181s · Speaker 5

Okay. I'm so sorry. Books are not. No one's here. How can I...
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Chương 3: Okay. Hi. 281s · Speaker 1

Okay. Hi. Oh, you're there? I'm here. Yeah, I'm sorry. I turned my video off, but I'm here. Oh, it's okay. Hi. I'm just saving the door for a minute. It's like, it actually feels fine when you're in here. It's just walking in. It's like, th…
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Chương 4: then got these two pieces which is we're all different and fundamentally the same and the tension piece yeah um yeah i think this is kind of connected isn't it that you can be in partnership in real partnership but you're two still two individual holes Yeah, and I think that tension piece in there, okay, the and. 301s · Speaker 2

then got these two pieces which is we're all different and fundamentally the same and the tension piece yeah um yeah i think this is kind of connected isn't it that you can be in partnership in real partnership but you're two still two indi…
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Chương 5: as you say kind of living their lives and moving through the world with everything like that there's just all this i think it connects to possibility there's all this possibility like a passing encounter with a stranger could open up so much just i think i think you're giving you're giving me a different slightly different angle of this actually i think it's like i think i always think it's sort of in the frame of we're all different we're all the same and don't assume that what you see which is the tip of the output is actually the whole of that person just because someone looks like they're living their best life doesn't mean that also I've got the tension of carrying xyz or actually having a shit show you wouldn't know people don't tell you people tell me it's like everyone thinks I'm fine everyone thinks I'm fabulous this is how I feel this is what's going or you know everyone dumps their shit on me and I'm the one who's fine and they think I can and actually actually I feel like shit as a result you know or really anxious you know burning out or you know all of so that's sort of okay okay but yeah it'll it'll look but i think that's an interesting probably like the true meaning like you say the word is interesting i like the fact you say possibility there as well okay okay focus so anyway we've got like the bigger picture stuff here we've got the sort of the walking iceberg stuff which is kind of all connected and i think this is going to go further down the list because it's much more sort of connected to what you do the this is around nuance and polarization and different but the same here then we have just sort of general outlooks of life you know joy and humor matters fairness matters but it might not look kind when it is disagreeing i don't i i'm just gonna I don't think that's a general, just like a casual general outlook. 282s · Speaker 2

as you say kind of living their lives and moving through the world with everything like that there's just all this i think it connects to possibility there's all this possibility like a passing encounter with a stranger could open up so muc…
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Chương 6: coach to be honest to god but actually i'm gonna read it and i'm gonna i know he's like email me and i'm sorry i will email but part of me already is like oh fuck do i do i need to figure out this problem you know it's maybe a bit ridiculous and like i say it sounds a bit arrogant but it's like but then i'm thinking but that's a word maybe i can i don't know anyway i don't want to like lose focus but it's like you should definitely send the email and you should definitely read it and you should definitely email her back yeah well i need to read it and annotate it and like but i mean i mean i just see but i was having a visceral response it's like really like really fucking honestly i think it's an insight into a world that does not have joy and personally i'm like i i would have killed myself i know i just like or or I would have done, probably not done that. 299s · Speaker 3

coach to be honest to god but actually i'm gonna read it and i'm gonna i know he's like email me and i'm sorry i will email but part of me already is like oh fuck do i do i need to figure out this problem you know it's maybe a bit ridiculou…
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Chương 7: yeah that's nice okay so next belief down then let's have a look um the world is full of possibility but also everything changes and this is life does that is that sit very high is that up there is that sort of a a principle well are we looking at the hierarchy yeah so we've got sort of everything changes this is life literally well this is true this is like everything does um there is always a way does is that a very does that sit up here do we think this is there is always a way no that feels like it's like lower because obviously there are things in life that you know someone dies you know some things do have limits yeah you know that guy living in a in a flat with mold is probably not going to be an astronaut this um yeah but have you really wanted to at some point he might have got from a coat or in the realm that's not as well anyway so but i think there was everything changes this is like i mean that feels high i think so and i think that's true it's not really belief it's just true like yeah it's true but it is particularly present and true to you I think because of perhaps your life, but also the work you do. 298s · Speaker 1

yeah that's nice okay so next belief down then let's have a look um the world is full of possibility but also everything changes and this is life does that is that sit very high is that up there is that sort of a a principle well are we loo…
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Chương 8: very maybe noticing everything will pick up. 110s · Speaker 3

very maybe noticing everything will pick up. There's something off here. I don't know what it is, but I'm not trusting. Someone who is switched off will be like, oh, they're just shit. Or, you know, they'll just reduce it to, I don't like y…
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Chương 9: if we now go into the so we've kind of got okay joy is at the top full of possibility everything changes but real life is connected there's something here around presence being a gift to others that stillness is profound that coherence is power And then do we go into this piece around awe? 302s · Speaker 2

if we now go into the so we've kind of got okay joy is at the top full of possibility everything changes but real life is connected there's something here around presence being a gift to others that stillness is profound that coherence is p…
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Chương 10: actually have it rather than like, oh no, I can't handle it. 186s · Speaker 2

actually have it rather than like, oh no, I can't handle it. And I think in life, a lot of people are like, you move very fast to the certainty piece whether or not it's discerned or true or if it serves you it's like the unconscious defaul…
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Chương 11: If your life is a shit show doesn't mean to say it's all shit. 66s · Speaker 6

If your life is a shit show doesn't mean to say it's all shit. And there will be cases where it is all shit. And there will be cases where it's all amazing. But they will be the minority, is my belief. The middle ground is the middle ground…
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Chương 12: However, someone's just knocked on my door. 84s · Speaker 7

However, someone's just knocked on my door. Give me one second. Capture that. Write the choice piece down somewhere because that's good. Okay. Speaking of unexpected things that life just throws, the food shop is really early. That's what t…
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Chương 13: Sorry, 63s · Speaker 5

Sorry,
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Chương 14: something's, I'm here. 46s · Speaker 4

something's, I'm here. Something's come to me for a second that I want to capture. Oh no. You really, really came to life then when you were talking about those beliefs. The fact that the only constant is that life will throw shit at you. T…
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Chương 15: right sorry okay it's like really like hot in that room you know what I might actually just um might do I could talk to you like just see which room a minute if I'm basically paying for a room in my fucking air conditioning yeah I'm on like the hottest day of the year I feel like that would be a bit cheapy yeah like i would be tempted to agree within my right to do that so i'm just but i can talk to you i'm just gonna i just literally turned to me so she came on because i mean i apologize but yeah did you get your stuff sorted yeah i mean i basically just thrown the stuff that needs to be kept cold in the fridge and next time i open the fridge i'm confidence all just going to tumble out. 60s · Speaker 1

right sorry okay it's like really like hot in that room you know what I might actually just um might do I could talk to you like just see which room a minute if I'm basically paying for a room in my fucking air conditioning yeah I'm on like…
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Chương 16: Yeah, that's fine. 303s · Speaker 3

Yeah, that's fine. Good. So I did just, I don't know if you, I put some post -it notes on basically. Yeah, this is good. Okay. So I think that was, you know what, when you just came on there, I thought, oh yeah, that was really good insight…
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Chương 17: of happens in that magical way that we all kind of want. 303s · Speaker 1

of happens in that magical way that we all kind of want. And the way that you have spoken about wanting to build this business, you talk a lot about the communication and the content side of things. And so if you're on podcasts, if you're o…
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Chương 18: not the work. 301s · Speaker 2

not the work. Yeah, exactly. That becomes the work. And then the coaching or the consulting just becomes the medium through which you do that work. The mechanism. Mechanism. Exactly. Like to use me as an example. I'm essentially on paper a …
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Chương 19: get it it's like all the things in there it's like languages as it's been said years ago wasn't it languages in communic… 63s · Speaker 1

get it it's like all the things in there it's like languages as it's been said years ago wasn't it languages in communication seven percent or something but naming that it's the space of what isn't or the felt sense it's the nuance in fact …
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Chương 20: limited yeah that document can explain to you what's happening but it can't feel it It knows it, but it can't feel it. 300s · Speaker 2

limited yeah that document can explain to you what's happening but it can't feel it It knows it, but it can't feel it. Yeah, it's limited, isn't it? It's really hard to articulate certain things, but it doesn't mean that it's woolly. which …
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Chương 21: bit further down because we need something that connects. 301s · Speaker 1

bit further down because we need something that connects. Let's have a look. We need that we're all the same but different piece somewhere. Where's? Looking for that slide. Yeah, I can't. Go on now. Oh, it's here, isn't it? I can't move it …
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Chương 22: like, as a, more of that program we're creating. 302s · Speaker 1

like, as a, more of that program we're creating. But it's true of everything. Like... Yeah. You know, what you do is, like, so many actions, aren't they? It's, like, not always about hydrating, but it's sort of... what you put into the worl…
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Chương 23: people's beliefs. 219s · Speaker 1

people's beliefs. Yeah. Or you can be Christian and believe that's the only thing. You can also not be that. You can be one. I believe this and everyone else as well. Yeah. That's polarisation. Yeah. Okay. I want to just go back and look at…
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Chương 24: Is this the piece around real discernment? 109s · Speaker 5

Is this the piece around real discernment? So what you said to something here, this is the not cognitive, but somatic and embodied as well, isn't it? It's, this is what AI wrote, the wiring, the nervous system, the unconscious beliefs that …
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Chương 25: you know, before you were born even in some ways, in some situations. 202s · Speaker 6

you know, before you were born even in some ways, in some situations. Yeah. But that becomes default mode. Yeah. Which can drive your beliefs. Yeah. and then drives the behavior and at some point that was be helpful or protective and then i…
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Chương 26: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 73s · Speaker 8

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I agree. And I also don't know if it's a question you need to answer. I think it's just an awareness that there is both. yeah and i suppose if you're mapping in a framework you don't assume maybe that like one is the ot…
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Chương 27: but you know that, you know, lots of people sell to that and they say, you have to do the pain point. 77s · Speaker 4

but you know that, you know, lots of people sell to that and they say, you have to do the pain point. Then they have the sub story. Then there's quite, Oh, my brother died. And I was like, Oh, no, no, no. And now I'm going to like teach you…
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Chương 28: isn't it? 69s · Speaker 7

isn't it? It's a sort of a grounded sort of strength rather than, oh, I'm this really overweight person. All this stuff, all this adversity that I've overcome. It's more like this is how I believe the world is a better place to be. And let'…
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Chương 29: Okay. So what I've done, there's a bunch of post -it notes that I have just moved all the way across to the left that I think are important, but I don't think they have a place in this narrative. 105s · Speaker 8

Okay. So what I've done, there's a bunch of post -it notes that I have just moved all the way across to the left that I think are important, but I don't think they have a place in this narrative. because we captured them or because it's a b…
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Chương 30: was something you wrote in your i mean and that to me like navigating life with presence not just survival i mean that feels like such a light statement but it's so not is it yeah because actually like that's sort of everything isn't it really yeah it's almost like i imagine like that's the outcome and like if anything if you could get any outcome for your clients like would it be that to actually like have the present like have presence and hope presence and command presence and gift presence and all the things that come with being present yes that's joy it's connectedness it's stillness it's fulfillment it's all of those things isn't it it's also high performance yeah you know in a world of busyness and like um you know to make good to be discerning maybe it's input and output discerning but to be discerning it's like how do you make good how do you make a good decision how do you make good judgment How do you figure out, how do you get in a creative flow and iterate and new stuff and be pioneering? 301s · Speaker 3

was something you wrote in your i mean and that to me like navigating life with presence not just survival i mean that feels like such a light statement but it's so not is it yeah because actually like that's sort of everything isn't it rea…
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Chương 31: i think sermon i'm just sort of jumping around a sermon is a skill ski ski key skill um and then what else have we got we've got okay is it This kind of sits like this. 303s · Speaker 1

i think sermon i'm just sort of jumping around a sermon is a skill ski ski key skill um and then what else have we got we've got okay is it This kind of sits like this. The problem is never the problem, but you don't need to know everything…
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Chương 32: have outsourced because it felt too hard or that they didn't trust they would get right or they just didn't make them because they were overwhelmed and actually i think being able to discern is an antithesis to being overwhelmed because if you have the capability and the capacity to discern you don't become so easily overwhelmed maybe it's that maybe there's something i'm just going to add it like about capacity here and actually maybe this is what the work is about regulation and capacity This is something that I'm playing with and I'm not sure that people think, oh, capacity is the thing that let me get more capacity, but they might think I'm full. 72s · Speaker 2

have outsourced because it felt too hard or that they didn't trust they would get right or they just didn't make them because they were overwhelmed and actually i think being able to discern is an antithesis to being overwhelmed because if …
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Chương 33: I can't think now, these are my messy thoughts, you know, just make some sense and create something. 71s · Speaker 3

I can't think now, these are my messy thoughts, you know, just make some sense and create something. And it's just kind of outsourcing to your PA, not your PA, but your admin assistant, isn't it? I've got a vague idea, can you just go make …
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Chương 34: the bigger thing around then what happens because I think using quite quickly lose confidence in your own ability to think if you overuse ai yeah well i've started putting stuff in ai with something you know my god i'm almost forgetting how to to write properly and actually doing this recently and i did put some bits through but then when i was literally just sitting with myself you know not editing as i was going that is the thinking process yeah writing is i mean talking like i also appreciate you know as we're doing this at orbiting let's say but it's like for me this is a thinking iterative process writing is a thinking iterative process whereas if you don't do journaling or if you don't if you somebody if you don't know how to brainstorm in fact something that came out just to mention sort of perhaps even you know working with someone who would be bottom up say like the brainstorming process is really important to me and actually if you're if someone finds that quite stressful it's like oh interesting you have to sort of have to navigate that you know to be whereas if you're in a load of engineers or creatives doing a quick brainstorm is like very it can be very fast it can be very powerful yeah okay so do we think then Have we got the makings of this? 99s · Speaker 2

the bigger thing around then what happens because I think using quite quickly lose confidence in your own ability to think if you overuse ai yeah well i've started putting stuff in ai with something you know my god i'm almost forgetting how…
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Chương 35: I'm almost like, oh my God. 304s · Speaker 3

I'm almost like, oh my God. There'll be a transfer. And actually, what I might do, because we've covered so much ground around this belief hierarchy, I might actually get... ai i use claude to summarize the belief hierarchy and what i will …
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Chương 36: do you want me to do any prep i would say if there will be The transcript will, you should automatically get the transcript from this call. 303s · Speaker 3

do you want me to do any prep i would say if there will be The transcript will, you should automatically get the transcript from this call. I think my note will send it to you. So by all means, have a play in there. I actually would recomme…
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Chương 37: by tools. 300s · Speaker 1

by tools. people and power that tells you what to do. But how can you know what to think if you have no space to figure this out? A key need is discernment, to be good, to make good judgment at speed. You need to be present in order to disc…
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Chương 38: but it's a necessity i don't think you can achieve clarity without giving yourself the space or creating the capacity in… 81s · Speaker 3

but it's a necessity i don't think you can achieve clarity without giving yourself the space or creating the capacity in which to discern it or seek it or find it um so i think probably before like before you achieve clarity you have to hav…
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Chương 39: Yeah, I think I was writing that title in the wrong way. 268s · Speaker 1

Yeah, I think I was writing that title in the wrong way. But yeah, great. I think people struggle with values sometimes. How do you describe it? You just said it's actually your behaviours. are determined and then perhaps show you and there…
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Chương 40: An expression. 101s · Speaker 4

An expression. This is me. This is what I believe. This is what I've noticed about the world. This is what I'm doing about it. You want it? okay yeah oh my god that you made that sound and then this is what you kind of talk about if you wri…