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0:00Kapitola 1: Thanks for downloading the In Our Time podcast. 88s · Speaker 1
Thanks for downloading the In Our Time podcast. For more details about In Our Time and for our terms of use please go to bbc .co .uk forward slash radio 4. I hope you enjoy the programme. Hello, the 19th century philosopher John Stuart Mill…
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1:28Kapitola 2: Well, he's certainly the major. 303s · Speaker 2
Well, he's certainly the major... British philosopher of the 19th century, I think. And the impact that he's had on subsequent debate in all the different fields that you've just mentioned there has been very considerable. You find him bein…
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6:32Kapitola 3: As I understand it, Bentham's idea of happiness was quantitative, wasn't it? 154s · Speaker 2
As I understand it, Bentham's idea of happiness was quantitative, wasn't it? Well, it couldn't be quantitative in itself because you have to have something to have a quantity of. But are you now drawing a contrast with Mill? Yes. Well, Mill…
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9:06Kapitola 4: Mill's autobiography. 121s · Speaker 3
Mill's autobiography. is Mill's own record of that education. And he tells the reader that the only thing the reader is to pay any attention to about this autobiography is that it is a record of an education. And it's actually, on Mill's vi…
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11:08Kapitola 5: Why did his father impose that educational experiment in such a draconian fashion on this little boy? 142s · Speaker 2
Why did his father impose that educational experiment in such a draconian fashion on this little boy? Was it to do with Bentham's ideas and his own ideas? But it does seem that the boy was a laboratory, because then the boy then to go and t…
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Well, not really very much, because he's still essentially writing under the influence of his father and Bentham, so it's pretty much early simple pieces on economics and on social reform. He doesn't really begin to find his own voice until…
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14:33Kapitola 7: Well, it's an interesting episode in his life because it seems not to have been much noticed by other people. 62s · Speaker 3
Well, it's an interesting episode in his life because it seems not to have been much noticed by other people. In other words, it was a very internal event. And the crisis of it lasted for about six months. And he managed to survive that per…
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15:36Kapitola 8: For a great number of reasons, can you elaborate a little on what he got from Wordsworth's Anthony? 73s · Speaker 4
For a great number of reasons, can you elaborate a little on what he got from Wordsworth's Anthony? I think it was the sense that there is beauty to be found in the world to which one can respond emotionally and not rationally, that there i…
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16:49Kapitola 9: Well, Harriet Taylor had an enormous effect in showing him about the emotions and having very strong emotions herself. 81s · Speaker 6
Well, Harriet Taylor had an enormous effect in showing him about the emotions and having very strong emotions herself. And he addressed his reasoning to linking this with the public life. But one of the problems that he had to face was the …
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Can we link it to Harriet Taylor and mention something not mentioned so far about his autobiography, that he doesn't mention his mother in it at all. And he meets Harriet Taylor, who's already married to John Taylor, and they have a relatio…
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19:25Kapitola 11: He clearly felt two things. 185s · Speaker 2
He clearly felt two things. which in a way were a bit unkind to both of his parents. He thought that his mother had been turned into a drudge, that she had no intellectual interest, that she became incapable of sharing feelings with her chi…
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We must remember that this time he's working for the East India Company, so in that sense he's a part -time writer, but he's beginning to produce, Anthony Grayling, big works. In 1843 he published A System of Logic. How useful is that still…
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24:44Kapitola 13: He was obviously trying to influence the world in a. 302s · Speaker 4
He was obviously trying to influence the world in a... in a significant way. And it was when he got very much involved with the politics that was going on at the time, as Anthony said earlier, with the extension of the franchise and with th…
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29:46Kapitola 14: because in a spectacular controversy with Carlisle in 1850, Mill points out that so far from all blacks being. 86s · Speaker 1
because in a spectacular controversy with Carlisle in 1850, Mill points out that so far from all blacks being... ...designed by nature to be slaves, which is what Carlisle was cheerfully arguing that the Greeks... had learnt their civilisat…
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He wasn't a racist and he wasn't an imperialist of the bad kind. I mean, what underlies all this, and indeed goes right the way back to Bentham and James Mill's ideas about his education, was this idea of the sort of perfectibility of man. …
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32:27Kapitola 16: Well, he was meeting opposition from even liberal people who were afraid of being swamped by the uneducated majority. 105s · Speaker 5
Well, he was meeting opposition from even liberal people who were afraid of being swamped by the uneducated majority. And it's an interesting aspect of Mill. It's another of these ways in which he's aware of a tension between two things tha…
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34:14Kapitola 17: Can I move on to the subjection of women in 1869? 302s · Speaker 4
Can I move on to the subjection of women in 1869? How sensibly could his views be described in that as feminist? Oh, I think they can, yes. You know, the situation of women at the time, the fact that if a woman got married, she in effect be…
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a self -creating agent, is, it seems to me, a direct result of that. part of his tutelage when he was a boy. And you can't help but think that that beast was a rather positive aspect of it. Janet, you spoke of the influence he had in the ar…
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the other thing I think, to end on a slightly lighter note about this, is that Mill was quite good at winning arguments by not making them at all. In representative government, for example, there's this immensely elaborate discussion of plu…