5.2c Microcytic Anemias

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The last of the microcytic anemias would be due to thalassemia.

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Thalassemia is due to a decreased synthesis of globin chains.

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That's what we find in a thalassemia,

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that there's gonna be decreased production of globin chains.

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And so if there's decreased production of globin chains,

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there's going to be decreased hemoglobin,

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because globin would be down,

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so hemoglobin would be down,

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and decreased hemoglobin would then result in a microcytic anemia,

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as per the paradigm that we've established.

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So that's the general idea behind thalassemia.

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I'd like to just stop here for a second and remind you of a

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little bit of a technicality.

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Notice that I'm saying that we're talking about a decrease in synthesis

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of the globin chain.

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So a decrease in synthesis or production of the amount of globin

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chain is called thalassemia,

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whereas you could have some diseases in which there is an abnormality.

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of the globin chain after it's produced,

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for example,

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like in sickle cell anemia.

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So in sickle cell anemia,

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you're producing globin chain,

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however the globin chain is defective.

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So in thalassemia,

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the key is a decrease in synthesis of the globin chain.

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Thalassemia is usually due to an inherited mutation.

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Prevalence of thalassemia is explained by the fact

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that carriers are protected against plasmodium falciparum malaria.

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It's not enough to know that they're protected against malaria.

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You need to know that they're protected against plasmodium falciparum malaria.

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Thalassemia is divided into alpha and beta thalassemia.

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And so if there's a decrease in production of alpha chains,

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we call that alpha thalassemia.

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And if there's a decrease in production of beta chains,

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then we call that beta thalassemia.

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It's worth taking a moment here to remind ourselves of the normal types

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of hemoglobin.

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So the three normal types of hemoglobin usually seen in

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a human being are fetal hemoglobin,

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which is alpha two,

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gamma two.

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hemoglobin A,

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which is alpha 2,

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beta 2,

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and then hemoglobin A2,

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which is alpha 2,

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delta 2.

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Of all of these hemoglobins,

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you can see that there's a consistent use of alpha.

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In one way,

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you can think of it as sort of the most important of all of the globin

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chains,

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and alpha is used by everybody.

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Now I use that to remind me that there are actually four copies

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of the alpha gene,

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i .e.

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alpha is particularly important,

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and so therefore there's a couple extra copies of the alpha gene.

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And so when you think about the genetics of the alpha chain,

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it's important to know that the alpha chain,

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that there are normally four alpha alleles,

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and that they're present on chromosome 16.

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So basically, this is what it looks like.

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This is one copy of chromosome 16,

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and there'd be two genes here,

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and then one copy of chromosome 16,

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and there'd be two genes here.

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So it's important to know that there are four normal

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alpha alleles.

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Now, in alpha thalassemia,

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the problem is going to be gene deletion.

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This is also important to know.

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You need to know that in alpha thalassemia,

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the problem is gene deletion.

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So what's going to happen is we're going to knock out genes,

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and the knockout of the gene

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is then going to result in clinical findings.

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Now the first possibility would be that one gene is deleted.

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So imagine again that we've got two copies of alpha on this one chromosome

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and two alleles here on the other chromosome.

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If we knock out one alpha,

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the patients are asymptomatic.

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So that makes it easy because we don't have to worry about

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one gene deleted.

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Now what about if we knock out two genes?

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Well, if we knock out two genes,

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for example,

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here and here,

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and then here and here,

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if we knock out two genes,

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then the patients develop a mild anemia with a slightly

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increased red blood cell count.

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So there'll be a mild anemia with a slightly increased red blood cell count.

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Not something that you have to worry about too much clinically.

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Sometimes these patients don't even know that they have

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alpha thalassemia,

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and not something that you have to worry too much about on exams either.

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But what is important for examination purposes,

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and somewhat clinically,

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is that really there's two possibilities when you knock out two genes.

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So it's possible that you could knock out both genes on the same chromosome.

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For example,

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both of them are here on this same chromosome.

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We name that a cis.

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deletion,

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cis means with,

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or it's possible that you could knock out these on opposite chromosomes,

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and that's called trans.

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One possibility is cis and the other possibility is trans.

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And the cis deletion is important because the cis deletion

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is worse than the trans deletion.

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So that's a question that could be asked.

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Which is worse,

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the cis or the trans?

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And the reason that the cis is worse is because it's associated

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with an increased risk of severe thalassemia in the offspring.

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I .e.,

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if a person has two genes deleted,

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like this,

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then it's possible that when they pass this chromosome,

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they could pass both deleted copies.

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And so if that person happens to receive another bad copy

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from, let's say,

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a parent,

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that would then result in the risk for severe anemia in offspring.

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So that's one important feature of the cyst deletion.

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The second important feature of the cyst deletion is that it's more commonly seen in Asians.

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And some people say that

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the higher rate of spontaneous abortion seen in Asia.

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I guess one point to be aware of is that in Asia there's a higher rate

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of spontaneous abortion,

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and some believe that it's actually due to the fact

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that cis deletions are more common in Asia.

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And by the way,

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the trans deletions are more common in Africa.

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Cis deletions more common in Asia,

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trans deletions more common in Africa.

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Patients who have three genes deleted,

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they get a severe anemia.

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Again,

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if you're going to knock out three genes,

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you really don't have much choice.

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You've got to knock out two on one chromosome,

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and then the other one would be knocked out here.

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What's then going to happen is that as the patient develops

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in utero,

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there really is no clinically detected problem.

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Remember that the hemoglobin F,

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which was the fetal hemoglobin,

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is basically composed of alpha 2 and then gamma 2.

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And so even though only one alpha gene is being expressed,

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the presence of that one alpha gene is sufficient enough

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for the fetus to really avoid any problems.

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When the fetus is born and the patient begins to produce hemoglobin

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A and hemoglobin A2,

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that's going to increase the risk of forming tetramers

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of beta chains.

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Now, I guess to understand that,

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you have to know that normally what happens is sort of the alpha becomes a...

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dimer, and then the beta becomes a dimer,

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and so alpha 2 and beta 2 sort of join together,

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and then that forms hemoglobin.

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However,

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if the patient doesn't have alpha,

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then what'll happen is the betas will sort of join with another beta 2,

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so the beta 2 will join with beta 2,

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and that would result in a tetramer of beta,

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and the problem with that tetramer of beta is that it damages the red blood cells.

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Now a tetramer of beta is called hemoglobin H.

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That's important to know.

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And hemoglobin H would be seen on electrophoresis in alpha

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thalassemia,

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in which three genes are deleted.

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Now,

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if four genes are deleted,

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then you've got a major problem,

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and it's going to express itself in the fetus,

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because remember that hemoglobin F,

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which was the hemoglobin in the fetus,

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contains alpha 2 and gamma 2.

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And so if there's no alpha,

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then gamma 2 is going to join with another gamma 2,

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and that's going to result in a tetramer of gamma.

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And the tetramer of gamma would then damage the red blood cells.

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And these patients,

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they die in utero.

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And so this disease is lethal in utero.

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It's also called hydrops fetalis.

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Now what would we see on hemoglobin electrophoresis?

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We'd see hemoglobin BARTs.

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And what is hemoglobin BARTs?

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It is a tetramer of gamma chains.

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So it represents...

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tetramer of gamma chains.

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Alright,

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so that's alpha thalassemia,

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and now we go to beta thalassemia.

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And what's important to know about beta thalassemia,

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first of all, there are two beta genes.

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One is on chromosome,

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and the other is on the second copy of the chromosome.

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So there are two beta genes,

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and they're present on chromosome 11.

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And perhaps particularly important,

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for this discussion and high yield is that beta thalassemia is due to

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gene mutations,

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not deletions.

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Remember, alpha thalassemia,

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gene deletions.

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Beta thalassemia,

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gene mutations.

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Now,

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these mutations can create a variable production of beta chain.

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If the mutation results in complete knockout of the ability to produce beta

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chain, then we call that beta null.

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And if the mutation results in decreased production of beta chain,

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then we call that beta plus.

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So these are the two possibilities.

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Now this creates a wide spectrum of disease.

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So for example,

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a patient could have beta,

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a normal beta,

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and then beta plus,

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or a patient could have beta plus,

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beta plus,

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or a patient could have beta plus,

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beta null,

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or a patient could have beta null,

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beta null.

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So there's a lot of permutations of beta plus and beta

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null that could exist.

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what we're going to do is we're just going to focus on the extremes.

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So one extreme,

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sort of the most,

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the least severe extreme,

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the mildest form of disease would be to have one normal beta and to

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have one beta plus where there was a slight decrease in the production of beta.

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This is called beta thalassemia minor.

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It's usually asymptomatic,

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and the patients may have an increased red blood cell count.

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They usually have a microcytic hypochromic anemia with some target

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cells, but again,

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they are asymptomatic.

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Now,

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it's worth discussing for a moment here what target cells are,

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because this is the first time that we're encountering a target cell.

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So let's go back and remind ourselves that the normal red blood cell has

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a bi -

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biconcave shape to it.

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And the biconcave shape is such that the

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edges here are thicker and they contain hemoglobin.

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And the center is thinner,

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and it contains less hemoglobin.

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Now, when you look down at the red blood cell on the microscope,

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what you're actually seeing is the red blood cell with an area of central pallor.

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This represents the central pallor.

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And you see the edges,

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which are full of hemoglobin.

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So this is the normal image that you see when you look down on the microscope.

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Now,

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a target cell,

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basically, is when there is a bleb of membrane

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That results.

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And the bleb of membrane allows for hemoglobin to build

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up in that bleb,

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which then creates a little bit of redness within the center of the cell.

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And so this is the target cell will then give you this little dot of red in the center

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of the area where there should be central pallor.

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So that's a target cell.

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Now,

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when would we see a target cell?

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Well, a target cell,

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in order to see a target cell,

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we need to have either

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decrease in the cytoplasm or increase in the amount of membrane.

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Maybe the better way to understand this would be to think about a basketball.

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If you have a basketball and you press on the surface of the basketball,

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you're not going to be able to indent the surface at all.

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However,

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if you remove some air,

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then you can potentially indent the surface or you could create a

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bleb of the surface of the basketball.

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So in the same way,

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what's happening in thalassemia

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is that we're sort of reducing the hemoglobin that's in the cytoplasm,

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and by reducing the hemoglobin that's in the cytoplasm,

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it's like taking the air out of this ball,

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which then creates the opportunity to have a little excess membrane

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to be able to produce this bleb and form a target.

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And here's an image of a target cell,

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and it's exactly the way I drew it.

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Here I'm highlighting the target cell for you.

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Normally,

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this area in the center should actually be an area of central pallor.

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However, in this particular case,

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you can clearly see that there is a target sort of in the center there.

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All right,

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now in this particular disease,

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which again is beta thalassemia minor,

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the key hemoglobin electrophoresis finding is that there's going

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to be usually an isolated increase in hemoglobin A2.

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That's really the key finding.

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So I would say when you think about beta thalassemia major,

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it's usually asymptomatic.

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The patients have a microcytic hypochromic anemia with target cells.

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And then a key finding is an isolated or an independent increase

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in hemoglobin A2.

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And that's the key take -home message here.

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The other extreme of disease would be to knock out both beta chains completely,

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so that it would be beta null,

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beta null, and that's the most severe form of disease,

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so it is the opposite extreme of beta thalassemia minor.

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So in beta thalassemia major,

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both beta chains are knocked out,

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and so will there be a problem in the fetus?

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The answer is no,

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because fetal hemoglobin is actually alpha 2.

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and so we don't need beta in the fetus,

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and so there's no problem in the fetus.

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However,

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as soon as the baby's born,

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there'll be a demand to produce hemoglobin A,

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and so these patients will present with severe anemia.

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Now, it takes a few months for the disease to develop,

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and that's because the baby has fetal hemoglobin floating around

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in the blood,

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and so that fetal hemoglobin is temporarily

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protected,

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so it's gonna take a few months to develop.

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Now,

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what's going to...

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happen because there are no beta chains,

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correct?

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The beta chains are knocked out.

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So now as alpha chains are produced,

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the alpha chains will dimerize,

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and then eventually you'll have alpha 2 looking to join beta 2,

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but because there's no beta 2,

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eventually alpha 2 will join alpha 2,

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which will then produce tetramers of alpha.

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And these alpha tetramers will precipitate,

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and they'll damage the red blood cell.

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When they damage the red blood cell,

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that'll result in something called ineffective erythropoiesis.

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What that means is that as the red blood cells are being made and alpha is

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being produced,

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the alpha will actually precipitate and damage the red blood cell as

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they're being generated.

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Another problem is that even if the red blood cell does manage to get out of the

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bone marrow, the spleen will recognize the abnormality of

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this precipitated hemoglobin present within the red

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blood cell and will actually destroy the red blood cell.

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within the splenic macrophages.

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And so this is the reason why these patients have severe anemia.

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Now, because they have such severe anemia,

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they get a massive erythroid hyperplasia.

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What do I mean by that?

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Well, before you can understand massive erythroid hyperplasia,

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you need to recognize and remind yourself that usually erythropoiesis

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and hematopoiesis

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in particular erythropoiesis,

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occurs usually in the central axial skeleton.

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Now when a baby's born,

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erythropoiesis and hematopoiesis will be present throughout most

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of the skeleton.

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But as the patient grows,

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usually the erythropoiesis is limited to

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the central axial skeleton.

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In this particular case,

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because there's massive erythroid hyperplasia,

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there's such severe anemia that there's gonna be massive amounts of erythropoietin

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being released by the kidney in response to that anemia,

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and that massive amounts of erythropoietin will actually go to the bone marrow and drive

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the bone marrow to undergo hyperplasia.

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There'll actually be expansion of the hematopoiesis into unique

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areas such as the skull and the facial bones.

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Now when there's expansion of hematopoiesis into the skull,

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that's gonna produce a classic

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crew cut appearance on x -ray,

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and so that's high yield to be familiar with.

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And at the same time,

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when there's expansion of hematopoiesis into the facial bones,

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that's gonna thicken the facial bones and give the patient a chipmunk

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-like face.

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What will also occur is that these patients will get extramedullary

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hematopoiesis so that the liver and spleen will also begin to

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produce red blood cells,

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obviously that would be extramedullary,

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and that's gonna result in hepatosplenomegaly.

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Another complication that can be seen in these patients is a risk of aplastic

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crisis with parvovirus B19 infection.

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To understand this,

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we have to remind ourselves that these patients are dependent on every

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single red blood cell that's produced by the bone marrow along with extramedullary

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hematopoiesis.

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Now parvovirus B19 is a virus that infects erythroid

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precursors,

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and when it infects erythroid precursors,

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it shuts them down.

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Normally, it's a self -limited infection,

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and it'll last for a week or two weeks,

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and in most patients,

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in the normal patient,

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it wouldn't really have any effect because,

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for example,

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you and I have a tremendous reserve in our bone marrow,

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and we can afford to shut down production of red blood

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cells for a week or two.

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However,

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these patients,

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the beta thalassemia major patients,

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are so dependent on every single red blood cell that they produce that

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they can't

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risk shutdown even for a day.

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And so parvovirus B19 in these patients would create an

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aplastic crisis.

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And so that's an important thing to be familiar with.

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Here's a classic image that shows up on examinations.

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This is the crew cut appearance of the skull.

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And again,

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it's indicative of massive expansion of hematopoiesis

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into regions where hematopoiesis would not normally occur

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within the bone.

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It's not uncommon for these patients to be dependent on transfusions,

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and so chronic transfusions are often necessary.

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Now,

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this will lead to a risk for secondary hemochromatosis,

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and what do we mean by that?

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Well,

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basically, remember that every time you're giving a bag of blood,

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you're actually giving a bag of iron because those red blood cells are gonna be broken down,

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and that iron is now gonna be present within the body.

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Remember that the body really has no way of getting rid of iron.

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So every bag of blood is basically a bag of iron.

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And as iron begins to build up within the tissues,

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eventually the complication of having excess iron in tissues

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is called hemochromatosis.

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And that's a disease we'll talk about later in the liver lectures.

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However,

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at this point,

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you should recognize that it's secondary because it's secondary due to chronic

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transfusions.

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On blood smear,

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these patients will have a microcytic hypochromic anemia with

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target cells,

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and I've already explained that.

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At the same time,

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there will be some nucleated red blood cells.

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Now normally,

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our red blood cells do not have nuclei,

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and we remove those nuclei before the red blood cells can go out

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into the blood.

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However,

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if red blood cells are made in an abnormal location,

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for example,

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the spleen or the liver,

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as would occur in this disease,

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some of the nucleated red blood cells

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can actually escape out into the blood,

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and so we might see circulating nucleated red blood cells in this

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particular disease.

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On electrophoresis,

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the key finding,

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no hemoglobin A.

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The only hemoglobins that the patient will have are hemoglobin A2.

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And again,

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A2 is made up of alpha 2 and delta 2.

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And so there's no beta needed to make A2.

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And they'll have hemoglobin F.

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And hemoglobin F is alpha 2 and gamma 2.

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And again,

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there's no need for beta.

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So the key finding would be no hemoglobin A.

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And that concludes our discussion of microcytic anemias.

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The next section will deal with macrocytic anemia.

5.2c Microcytic Anemias

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