5.2c Microcytic Anemias
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The last of the microcytic anemias would be due to thalassemia.
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Thalassemia is due to a decreased synthesis of globin chains.
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That's what we find in a thalassemia,
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that there's gonna be decreased production of globin chains.
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And so if there's decreased production of globin chains,
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there's going to be decreased hemoglobin,
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because globin would be down,
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so hemoglobin would be down,
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and decreased hemoglobin would then result in a microcytic anemia,
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as per the paradigm that we've established.
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So that's the general idea behind thalassemia.
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I'd like to just stop here for a second and remind you of a
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little bit of a technicality.
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Notice that I'm saying that we're talking about a decrease in synthesis
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of the globin chain.
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So a decrease in synthesis or production of the amount of globin
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chain is called thalassemia,
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whereas you could have some diseases in which there is an abnormality.
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of the globin chain after it's produced,
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for example,
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like in sickle cell anemia.
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So in sickle cell anemia,
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you're producing globin chain,
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however the globin chain is defective.
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So in thalassemia,
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the key is a decrease in synthesis of the globin chain.
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Thalassemia is usually due to an inherited mutation.
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Prevalence of thalassemia is explained by the fact
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that carriers are protected against plasmodium falciparum malaria.
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It's not enough to know that they're protected against malaria.
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You need to know that they're protected against plasmodium falciparum malaria.
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Thalassemia is divided into alpha and beta thalassemia.
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And so if there's a decrease in production of alpha chains,
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we call that alpha thalassemia.
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And if there's a decrease in production of beta chains,
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then we call that beta thalassemia.
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It's worth taking a moment here to remind ourselves of the normal types
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of hemoglobin.
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So the three normal types of hemoglobin usually seen in
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a human being are fetal hemoglobin,
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which is alpha two,
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gamma two.
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hemoglobin A,
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which is alpha 2,
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beta 2,
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and then hemoglobin A2,
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which is alpha 2,
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delta 2.
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Of all of these hemoglobins,
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you can see that there's a consistent use of alpha.
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In one way,
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you can think of it as sort of the most important of all of the globin
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chains,
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and alpha is used by everybody.
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Now I use that to remind me that there are actually four copies
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of the alpha gene,
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i .e.
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alpha is particularly important,
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and so therefore there's a couple extra copies of the alpha gene.
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And so when you think about the genetics of the alpha chain,
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it's important to know that the alpha chain,
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that there are normally four alpha alleles,
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and that they're present on chromosome 16.
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So basically, this is what it looks like.
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This is one copy of chromosome 16,
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and there'd be two genes here,
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and then one copy of chromosome 16,
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and there'd be two genes here.
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So it's important to know that there are four normal
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alpha alleles.
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Now, in alpha thalassemia,
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the problem is going to be gene deletion.
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This is also important to know.
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You need to know that in alpha thalassemia,
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the problem is gene deletion.
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So what's going to happen is we're going to knock out genes,
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and the knockout of the gene
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is then going to result in clinical findings.
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Now the first possibility would be that one gene is deleted.
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So imagine again that we've got two copies of alpha on this one chromosome
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and two alleles here on the other chromosome.
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If we knock out one alpha,
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the patients are asymptomatic.
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So that makes it easy because we don't have to worry about
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one gene deleted.
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Now what about if we knock out two genes?
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Well, if we knock out two genes,
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for example,
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here and here,
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and then here and here,
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if we knock out two genes,
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then the patients develop a mild anemia with a slightly
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increased red blood cell count.
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So there'll be a mild anemia with a slightly increased red blood cell count.
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Not something that you have to worry about too much clinically.
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Sometimes these patients don't even know that they have
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alpha thalassemia,
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and not something that you have to worry too much about on exams either.
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But what is important for examination purposes,
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and somewhat clinically,
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is that really there's two possibilities when you knock out two genes.
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So it's possible that you could knock out both genes on the same chromosome.
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For example,
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both of them are here on this same chromosome.
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We name that a cis.
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deletion,
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cis means with,
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or it's possible that you could knock out these on opposite chromosomes,
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and that's called trans.
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One possibility is cis and the other possibility is trans.
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And the cis deletion is important because the cis deletion
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is worse than the trans deletion.
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So that's a question that could be asked.
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Which is worse,
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the cis or the trans?
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And the reason that the cis is worse is because it's associated
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with an increased risk of severe thalassemia in the offspring.
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I .e.,
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if a person has two genes deleted,
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like this,
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then it's possible that when they pass this chromosome,
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they could pass both deleted copies.
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And so if that person happens to receive another bad copy
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from, let's say,
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a parent,
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that would then result in the risk for severe anemia in offspring.
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So that's one important feature of the cyst deletion.
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The second important feature of the cyst deletion is that it's more commonly seen in Asians.
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And some people say that
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the higher rate of spontaneous abortion seen in Asia.
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I guess one point to be aware of is that in Asia there's a higher rate
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of spontaneous abortion,
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and some believe that it's actually due to the fact
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that cis deletions are more common in Asia.
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And by the way,
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the trans deletions are more common in Africa.
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Cis deletions more common in Asia,
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trans deletions more common in Africa.
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Patients who have three genes deleted,
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they get a severe anemia.
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Again,
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if you're going to knock out three genes,
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you really don't have much choice.
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You've got to knock out two on one chromosome,
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and then the other one would be knocked out here.
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What's then going to happen is that as the patient develops
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in utero,
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there really is no clinically detected problem.
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Remember that the hemoglobin F,
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which was the fetal hemoglobin,
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is basically composed of alpha 2 and then gamma 2.
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And so even though only one alpha gene is being expressed,
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the presence of that one alpha gene is sufficient enough
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for the fetus to really avoid any problems.
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When the fetus is born and the patient begins to produce hemoglobin
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A and hemoglobin A2,
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that's going to increase the risk of forming tetramers
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of beta chains.
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Now, I guess to understand that,
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you have to know that normally what happens is sort of the alpha becomes a...
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dimer, and then the beta becomes a dimer,
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and so alpha 2 and beta 2 sort of join together,
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and then that forms hemoglobin.
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However,
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if the patient doesn't have alpha,
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then what'll happen is the betas will sort of join with another beta 2,
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so the beta 2 will join with beta 2,
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and that would result in a tetramer of beta,
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and the problem with that tetramer of beta is that it damages the red blood cells.
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Now a tetramer of beta is called hemoglobin H.
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That's important to know.
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And hemoglobin H would be seen on electrophoresis in alpha
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thalassemia,
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in which three genes are deleted.
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Now,
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if four genes are deleted,
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then you've got a major problem,
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and it's going to express itself in the fetus,
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because remember that hemoglobin F,
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which was the hemoglobin in the fetus,
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contains alpha 2 and gamma 2.
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And so if there's no alpha,
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then gamma 2 is going to join with another gamma 2,
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and that's going to result in a tetramer of gamma.
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And the tetramer of gamma would then damage the red blood cells.
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And these patients,
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they die in utero.
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And so this disease is lethal in utero.
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It's also called hydrops fetalis.
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Now what would we see on hemoglobin electrophoresis?
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We'd see hemoglobin BARTs.
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And what is hemoglobin BARTs?
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It is a tetramer of gamma chains.
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So it represents...
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tetramer of gamma chains.
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Alright,
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so that's alpha thalassemia,
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and now we go to beta thalassemia.
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And what's important to know about beta thalassemia,
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first of all, there are two beta genes.
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One is on chromosome,
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and the other is on the second copy of the chromosome.
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So there are two beta genes,
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and they're present on chromosome 11.
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And perhaps particularly important,
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for this discussion and high yield is that beta thalassemia is due to
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gene mutations,
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not deletions.
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Remember, alpha thalassemia,
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gene deletions.
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Beta thalassemia,
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gene mutations.
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Now,
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these mutations can create a variable production of beta chain.
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If the mutation results in complete knockout of the ability to produce beta
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chain, then we call that beta null.
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And if the mutation results in decreased production of beta chain,
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then we call that beta plus.
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So these are the two possibilities.
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Now this creates a wide spectrum of disease.
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So for example,
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a patient could have beta,
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a normal beta,
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and then beta plus,
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or a patient could have beta plus,
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beta plus,
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or a patient could have beta plus,
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beta null,
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or a patient could have beta null,
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beta null.
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So there's a lot of permutations of beta plus and beta
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null that could exist.
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what we're going to do is we're just going to focus on the extremes.
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So one extreme,
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sort of the most,
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the least severe extreme,
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the mildest form of disease would be to have one normal beta and to
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have one beta plus where there was a slight decrease in the production of beta.
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This is called beta thalassemia minor.
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It's usually asymptomatic,
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and the patients may have an increased red blood cell count.
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They usually have a microcytic hypochromic anemia with some target
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cells, but again,
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they are asymptomatic.
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Now,
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it's worth discussing for a moment here what target cells are,
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because this is the first time that we're encountering a target cell.
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So let's go back and remind ourselves that the normal red blood cell has
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a bi -
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biconcave shape to it.
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And the biconcave shape is such that the
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edges here are thicker and they contain hemoglobin.
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And the center is thinner,
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and it contains less hemoglobin.
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Now, when you look down at the red blood cell on the microscope,
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what you're actually seeing is the red blood cell with an area of central pallor.
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This represents the central pallor.
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And you see the edges,
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which are full of hemoglobin.
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So this is the normal image that you see when you look down on the microscope.
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Now,
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a target cell,
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basically, is when there is a bleb of membrane
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That results.
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And the bleb of membrane allows for hemoglobin to build
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up in that bleb,
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which then creates a little bit of redness within the center of the cell.
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And so this is the target cell will then give you this little dot of red in the center
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of the area where there should be central pallor.
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So that's a target cell.
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Now,
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when would we see a target cell?
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Well, a target cell,
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in order to see a target cell,
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we need to have either
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decrease in the cytoplasm or increase in the amount of membrane.
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Maybe the better way to understand this would be to think about a basketball.
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If you have a basketball and you press on the surface of the basketball,
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you're not going to be able to indent the surface at all.
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However,
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if you remove some air,
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then you can potentially indent the surface or you could create a
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bleb of the surface of the basketball.
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So in the same way,
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what's happening in thalassemia
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is that we're sort of reducing the hemoglobin that's in the cytoplasm,
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and by reducing the hemoglobin that's in the cytoplasm,
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it's like taking the air out of this ball,
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which then creates the opportunity to have a little excess membrane
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to be able to produce this bleb and form a target.
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And here's an image of a target cell,
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and it's exactly the way I drew it.
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Here I'm highlighting the target cell for you.
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Normally,
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this area in the center should actually be an area of central pallor.
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However, in this particular case,
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you can clearly see that there is a target sort of in the center there.
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All right,
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now in this particular disease,
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which again is beta thalassemia minor,
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the key hemoglobin electrophoresis finding is that there's going
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to be usually an isolated increase in hemoglobin A2.
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That's really the key finding.
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So I would say when you think about beta thalassemia major,
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it's usually asymptomatic.
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The patients have a microcytic hypochromic anemia with target cells.
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And then a key finding is an isolated or an independent increase
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in hemoglobin A2.
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And that's the key take -home message here.
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The other extreme of disease would be to knock out both beta chains completely,
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so that it would be beta null,
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beta null, and that's the most severe form of disease,
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so it is the opposite extreme of beta thalassemia minor.
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So in beta thalassemia major,
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both beta chains are knocked out,
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and so will there be a problem in the fetus?
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The answer is no,
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because fetal hemoglobin is actually alpha 2.
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and so we don't need beta in the fetus,
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and so there's no problem in the fetus.
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However,
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as soon as the baby's born,
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there'll be a demand to produce hemoglobin A,
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and so these patients will present with severe anemia.
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Now, it takes a few months for the disease to develop,
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and that's because the baby has fetal hemoglobin floating around
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in the blood,
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and so that fetal hemoglobin is temporarily
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protected,
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so it's gonna take a few months to develop.
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Now,
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what's going to...
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happen because there are no beta chains,
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correct?
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The beta chains are knocked out.
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So now as alpha chains are produced,
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the alpha chains will dimerize,
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and then eventually you'll have alpha 2 looking to join beta 2,
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but because there's no beta 2,
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eventually alpha 2 will join alpha 2,
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which will then produce tetramers of alpha.
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And these alpha tetramers will precipitate,
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and they'll damage the red blood cell.
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When they damage the red blood cell,
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that'll result in something called ineffective erythropoiesis.
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What that means is that as the red blood cells are being made and alpha is
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being produced,
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the alpha will actually precipitate and damage the red blood cell as
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they're being generated.
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Another problem is that even if the red blood cell does manage to get out of the
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bone marrow, the spleen will recognize the abnormality of
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this precipitated hemoglobin present within the red
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blood cell and will actually destroy the red blood cell.
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within the splenic macrophages.
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And so this is the reason why these patients have severe anemia.
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Now, because they have such severe anemia,
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they get a massive erythroid hyperplasia.
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What do I mean by that?
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Well, before you can understand massive erythroid hyperplasia,
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you need to recognize and remind yourself that usually erythropoiesis
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and hematopoiesis
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in particular erythropoiesis,
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occurs usually in the central axial skeleton.
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Now when a baby's born,
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erythropoiesis and hematopoiesis will be present throughout most
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of the skeleton.
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But as the patient grows,
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usually the erythropoiesis is limited to
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the central axial skeleton.
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In this particular case,
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because there's massive erythroid hyperplasia,
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there's such severe anemia that there's gonna be massive amounts of erythropoietin
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being released by the kidney in response to that anemia,
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and that massive amounts of erythropoietin will actually go to the bone marrow and drive
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the bone marrow to undergo hyperplasia.
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There'll actually be expansion of the hematopoiesis into unique
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areas such as the skull and the facial bones.
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Now when there's expansion of hematopoiesis into the skull,
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that's gonna produce a classic
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crew cut appearance on x -ray,
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and so that's high yield to be familiar with.
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And at the same time,
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when there's expansion of hematopoiesis into the facial bones,
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that's gonna thicken the facial bones and give the patient a chipmunk
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-like face.
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What will also occur is that these patients will get extramedullary
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hematopoiesis so that the liver and spleen will also begin to
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produce red blood cells,
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obviously that would be extramedullary,
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and that's gonna result in hepatosplenomegaly.
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Another complication that can be seen in these patients is a risk of aplastic
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crisis with parvovirus B19 infection.
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To understand this,
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we have to remind ourselves that these patients are dependent on every
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single red blood cell that's produced by the bone marrow along with extramedullary
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hematopoiesis.
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Now parvovirus B19 is a virus that infects erythroid
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precursors,
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and when it infects erythroid precursors,
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it shuts them down.
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Normally, it's a self -limited infection,
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and it'll last for a week or two weeks,
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and in most patients,
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in the normal patient,
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it wouldn't really have any effect because,
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for example,
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you and I have a tremendous reserve in our bone marrow,
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and we can afford to shut down production of red blood
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cells for a week or two.
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However,
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these patients,
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the beta thalassemia major patients,
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are so dependent on every single red blood cell that they produce that
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they can't
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risk shutdown even for a day.
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And so parvovirus B19 in these patients would create an
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aplastic crisis.
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And so that's an important thing to be familiar with.
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Here's a classic image that shows up on examinations.
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This is the crew cut appearance of the skull.
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And again,
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it's indicative of massive expansion of hematopoiesis
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into regions where hematopoiesis would not normally occur
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within the bone.
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It's not uncommon for these patients to be dependent on transfusions,
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and so chronic transfusions are often necessary.
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Now,
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this will lead to a risk for secondary hemochromatosis,
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and what do we mean by that?
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Well,
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basically, remember that every time you're giving a bag of blood,
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you're actually giving a bag of iron because those red blood cells are gonna be broken down,
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and that iron is now gonna be present within the body.
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Remember that the body really has no way of getting rid of iron.
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So every bag of blood is basically a bag of iron.
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And as iron begins to build up within the tissues,
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eventually the complication of having excess iron in tissues
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is called hemochromatosis.
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And that's a disease we'll talk about later in the liver lectures.
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However,
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at this point,
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you should recognize that it's secondary because it's secondary due to chronic
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transfusions.
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On blood smear,
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these patients will have a microcytic hypochromic anemia with
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target cells,
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and I've already explained that.
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At the same time,
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there will be some nucleated red blood cells.
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Now normally,
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our red blood cells do not have nuclei,
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and we remove those nuclei before the red blood cells can go out
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into the blood.
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However,
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if red blood cells are made in an abnormal location,
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for example,
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the spleen or the liver,
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as would occur in this disease,
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some of the nucleated red blood cells
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can actually escape out into the blood,
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and so we might see circulating nucleated red blood cells in this
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particular disease.
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On electrophoresis,
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the key finding,
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no hemoglobin A.
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The only hemoglobins that the patient will have are hemoglobin A2.
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And again,
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A2 is made up of alpha 2 and delta 2.
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And so there's no beta needed to make A2.
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And they'll have hemoglobin F.
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And hemoglobin F is alpha 2 and gamma 2.
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And again,
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there's no need for beta.
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So the key finding would be no hemoglobin A.
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And that concludes our discussion of microcytic anemias.
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The next section will deal with macrocytic anemia.
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