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somebody we'll just cover you somebody's
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coming in yeah yeah
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i'm coming are you okay too long yes she's
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saying she's okay she's sleeping but i've covered her
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is she just sleeping or she's sleeping so she
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can't try somebody
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i'm just gonna have a chat with you because carlson's coming back
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Let's just...
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Maddy?
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Hamid is here.
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He wants to have a chat with you.
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Because Carson's coming back.
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Hamid wants to have a chat.
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No problem.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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Alright,
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just have a chat with Hamid so he can know the next steps,
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alright? Alright,
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you can leave me.
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Just stay there for a second.
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Do you want a quick chat just
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because Carson's coming back?
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Do you want
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me to wait?
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Do you want me to do five minutes?
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No.
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Sure?
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Obviously,
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I think the police have told us that Carson's coming back later
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today.
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I just want to get your thoughts on that really,
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really quickly.
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Because I know yesterday,
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I think you had said to a staffer that he's never coming back or something.
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I'm not saying that.
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Oh.
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Are you going to be okay with him coming back?
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He
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will go to fucking jail.
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Okay,
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so the police are bringing him back.
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So I just want to check with you if you have any issues,
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any problems.
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I can raise with them.
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Has
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anything got me to say to them or anything?
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Are you
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okay with them coming back?
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No,
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I don't have that.
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Okay.
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Do you want to just quickly tell me what happened yesterday?
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You already know.
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I've read some incident forms
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and stuff.
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So I just need to know.
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From your opinion,
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what's happened?
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He
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wanted to sleep outside again.
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Yeah.
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So,
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I can't hear you.
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So he wanted to sleep outside again?
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Well,
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he did.
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Yeah, he did.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I
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got pissed off.
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I can't hear you.
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I can't hear you.
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Oh my God, you're fucking dead.
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You got pissed off what?
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What?
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You got pissed off what?
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I got pissed off because the staff wouldn't leave.
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Wouldn't leave what?
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The court shop?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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But why did you want me to leave the court shop?
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Because I knew what he was going to do.
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Because he did the same thing last night.
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Okay,
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so...
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Wait, so you wanted him to leave the courtyard?
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You wanted staff to leave the courtyard because what?
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Oh,
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my God.
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I'm not listening.
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I'm listening.
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You said you wanted the staff to leave the courtyard,
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but the staff didn't leave.
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Oh, it wouldn't make a fucking difference in the first place because staff
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were still there and they didn't do anything.
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Did you make staff aware of what was going on?
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Well, it was kind of obvious.
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Was it obvious?
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Yeah.
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In what way?
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oh yeah no no i don't i don't i don't want to see anything okay
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so because i think after that you had a call with somebody
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and he told me he was bleeding for six months what yeah
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did you tell anyone that you've been bleeding for like six months
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or so who the fuck has told you this shit you
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were heard on the phone wasn't on
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the phone what you were heard you were heard saying it six
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months
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Yeah.
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Why the fuck would I be bleeding for six months?
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I don't know.
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That's all right.
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Oh my God,
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Harry, Joe's staff,
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honestly,
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they actually need to fuck off.
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Okay. I was speaking to Susanna on the
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phone.
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Okay.
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I came upstairs.
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Yeah.
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After that whole thing happened,
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because I knew I was bleeding.
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Okay.
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I could feel it.
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Yeah.
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Which is what I told her on her fucking voice notes.
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Okay.
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Which, if you want to fucking hear it,
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I'll fucking show it to you.
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Okay.
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Fucking six months,
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my arse.
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Jesus Christ.
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So just to confirm,
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you're saying that Carson,
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I don't want to use the words,
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but essentially,
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you know,
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touched you down there to a point where you're bleeding.
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Yeah.
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And did you tell him at the time?
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What did I tell him?
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Did you tell any staff member?
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No!
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Okay.
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And
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you're saying that Carson just denied the whole thing,
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right? Yeah.
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Did
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you ask if Carson left in handcuffs?
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Yeah.
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So when the staff told you,
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why did you laugh?
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I didn't laugh.
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Okay, so you didn't laugh that he was in handcuffs.
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Why would I laugh?
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I'm just asking a question.
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He's not fucking funny.
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I've had an incident before and stuff,
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so I'm just asking a question.
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I
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don't laugh. I'll just ask what happened.
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Because I was up here with the police.
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And his mum's downstairs fucking screaming.
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And did you tell Carson to stop?
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Stop what?
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What he was doing.
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No!
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Can I ask you a question?
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Yeah.
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If you're saying to me that you knew what he wanted to do.
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Sorry,
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can you put the blanket there?
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If you knew what he wanted to do,
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why would you want staff to leave him?
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Because he wanted the staff to leave.
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I had to grab fucking Abby in the fucking house
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because she wouldn't fucking leave.
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But then they wouldn't leave in the fucking third place.
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So your staff is shit because the cover's moving like it.
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And they're fucking stupid little cunts.
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It's kind of obvious.
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And I had to fucking stand up when he still fucking touched me with
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a fucking finger and tie my fucking vagina and he wouldn't fucking stop because
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he's a stupid little fucking dickhead.
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So yeah.
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And I was fucking bleeding.
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So you can get that fucking dirty little cunt away.
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So staff didn't want to leave and then you wanted them.
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You wanted staff.
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What?
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So staff wouldn't leave.
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But then you still want them to leave because you're just following guards and instructions.
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Oh my God.
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He wanted the staff to leave,
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right?
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Why would you then tell staff to leave then?
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Because he wouldn't tell fucking staff to leave,
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would he?
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Yeah, but that's the thing.
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If you feel unsafe with him,
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why would you want staff to leave it?
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Why would you take his statement and tell staff to leave on his behalf?
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i'm just i'm just asking because it's not making sense why if he if he's the only
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one that wanted staff to leave and you felt unsafe why
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would you then take his information about wanting stuff to leave try then trying to get
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stuff to leave by attacking abigail like why did they attack no one i
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pulled her in the house yeah but that's what i'm saying why
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would you then do that if you knew that staff would be it's better to
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have stuff there than not to have stuff there well the staff was still there it still happened
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But you didn't think to communicate it when it was happening?
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How can I?
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He's literally right there.
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I mean,
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same way you called the police.
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You could have,
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you know, texted staff.
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I mean, staff were right there in front of you.
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Would you not say stop Carson and tell the staff?
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No, I wouldn't.
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Yeah,
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do you know sometimes when you tell me that you don't want Jaden around,
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you call me at the corners and you also tell me you don't want him around you.
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You should have done that same approach to tell staff that you don't
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want...
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casting around you at the moment they would have still walked away
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to navigate him out it doesn't matter if i said anything the staff
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was still there it still happened it was obvious what was
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fucking happening and your staff were just there scrolling on fucking tiktok and
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now everyone's
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taking fucking cars inside no no no nobody's taking cars inside we're
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not taking cars inside we're just trying to understand no we just want to get the deep of it
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We're trying to understand why,
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you know,
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what happened and stuff and also your thoughts because he's coming back.
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He's coming back here,
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so it's just about understanding your thoughts around that really.
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At the end of the day,
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you've contacted police.
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Carson's gone.
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So you've done the right thing.
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But obviously from here,
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we need to just get your statement and just make sure everything makes
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sense in our lives.
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That's all.
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Do you mind
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sending me the voice message that you sent to...
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Is it Sandra you said?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I want to send it.
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It's on fucking Snapchat.
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Snapchat.
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Do you mind just playing it?
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I don't even remember.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
What the fuck?
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I was talking all fucking hard.
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I didn't go to the sex part.
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Oh my god,
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my hair.
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I walked for a
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bus. It's
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okay. I mean,
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this is quite serious,
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isn't it?
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To staff.
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You've got the blue
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snake, but then you've got the...
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You can see what I said.
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I can't see what you said.
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I'm,
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like, ten miles away.
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Well, if you come fucking closer,
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you can see what I said.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay, can I have a look?
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Can I have my glasses,
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please? I can't see.
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I don't know where your glasses are.
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On there.
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So
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this one was just me saying his
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mum was going down to custody to him tomorrow for his interview.
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and that she's bringing him back.
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Yeah.
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And
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then I was saying Carson's mum comes down for literally
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everything.
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Well,
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what's wrong with that?
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That's her child.
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Well,
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it's annoying.
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It might go away.
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If your son said fucking supported living and you can't
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look after him,
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then fuck off.
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But you already supported living as well?
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My parents don't come down if someone chucks a fucking
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buck, do they?
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Oh,
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no.
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No, but that's not the point.
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What I'm saying is everybody...
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If she cares that much,
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he should be living with her.
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Like,
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what's the issue?
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I
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don't know if I'm fucking saying this.
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I've been in care
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for four years.
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No, no,
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no. I'm not caught in.
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I've been in care since I was fucking five years old.
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At least you've got a buddy mommy like she gives a shit out of you.
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Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Does it just mean moaning to her?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay, that's fine.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Just a quick one,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
how come you were asking to find out if Peter had left?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Why were you wondering if Peter had left?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Because he was
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speaking to Abby outside.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Why were you concerned if Peter had left?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I wasn't concerned.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I was asking if he left.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Like, is that a crime?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
No,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
that's not a crime.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
that's fine.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
What would you like to have in the classroom?
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I don't fucking give two shits.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Well,
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you know I was still here.
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You would have told staff member to speak to me so I can come.
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and have a chat with you if you had a code signed or something
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would have gone wrong.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You've obviously made
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
an allegation against Carson's police,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
right?
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Carson's obviously been arrested.
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So the next step is,
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I think you've already given evidence,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
right? Have you given a statement as well?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yeah,
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they've had MacLeary's without a normal
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sample.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
What did the police say this morning?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yeah, they are coming to take you.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Got to go to do some swabs.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yeah, swabs,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
yeah. They want to carry further
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investigation.
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You should just confirm in this situation,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Carson didn't have your consent.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Am I correct?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
My consent?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So he did it without you.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You told him to...
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
He knows I can't say no.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
When I'm in a situation like that,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I physically can't say no.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay,
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he knows you can't say no.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So, from a consent basis,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
are we saying that he does not have your consent?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yeah?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Okay.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
That's fine.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
We'll wait for the police to come and then I guess...
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Why does no one believe me?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Everyone believes you.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
It's not that no one doesn't believe you.
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It's the fact that my concern is,
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if I'm being very transparent,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
my concern is very simple.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You're saying that he can't say,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
you can't say no to him,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
right? Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You're saying that.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
But at the same time,
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that staff are there or going to be there,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
you're then telling staff to leave because he's supposedly telling you he
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doesn't want staff.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So why,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
if I feel unsafe with Peter right now,
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why would I want to be in that environment?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Does that make sense?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You have your flat,
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you have your own space,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
you can close your door.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You don't have to be around him.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Why in that situation are you telling staff
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
to leave?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Do you understand my point?
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That's my main concern.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
My main concern is,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
regardless of what Carson thinks,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
if you're saying you're unable to say no yourself,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
then why would you not want staff to be in between you?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Why would you not want staff to leave?
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Well, they were there anyway,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
and they didn't do nothing.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
But regardless,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
what I'm saying is,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
they may be there,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
right?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
They may be there.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Is it against Carson's dolls for him to be with you?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
No.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Is he allowed to be outside with you?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yes.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Are you allowed to cuddle him?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yes.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Right?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
for all we know,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
if you've got covers on,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
you might be cuddling.
17:46
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
No one's going to just straight assume that something is happening.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
No one's going to assume that.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
But secondly,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
if something
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
is occurring,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
We need to know about it.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yes, you're saying to me now that you're not able to tell no.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I understand that.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I completely get that.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
But equally,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
you need to understand that you shouldn't be telling staff not to
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
be there.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You shouldn't be pulling staff away so they're not there.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You shouldn't be doing that.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You know what I'm trying to say?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
It's very contradictory.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You don't want something to happen,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
but equally,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
the people that are going to be
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
there for you,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
you don't want them to be there?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So...
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Mother,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
he's fucking star for shit.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So basically,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
last night,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Carson was basically inside of me.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I'll just put it that way.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Right.
18:52
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
The same thing happened last night,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
right?
18:56
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Well,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
he was touching me.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yes.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Just let him.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Right.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
we were under the cover.
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Well,
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
before that...
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
i told the staff to leave because they didn't want the staff there right
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
but now this guy is moaning
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
saying why have i told staff to leave mate
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
it's
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
not funny oh god
20:05
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
yes but you did not you did not have sex with carson
20:10
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
oh my god he was can you just clarify mum he
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
had his finger in my vagina okay no
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
listen
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
listen right
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I was cleaning after that whole fucking thingy,
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
right?
20:41
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
So then I came upstairs and called the fucking police.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
And then Carson got fucking arrested.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
And then I got moaned at buddy Carson's
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
mum and this stupid little fucking stepdad saying
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
loads of shit.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
And then the police came.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
They took all the clothes and everything.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
And then I'm getting moaned now.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
And then Carson's coming back.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Fucking hell.
21:20
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I'm not touching him.
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I didn't
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
know what was happening in the first place.
21:30
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Yeah, but you told me that.
21:31
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
You told me that you knew what was happening.
21:34
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
Mom, they don't fucking give a shit.
21:36
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I do care.
21:37
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Speaker 1 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
No, you don't.
21:38
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Speaker 2 (WhatsApp Audio 2026-06-27 at 13.53.11)
I do care.
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