Glenn Dalrymple

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attorney, but I

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was aware of it.

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It would be good to hear what your

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recollections are,

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even if they may be a bit hazy.

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Just to let you know,

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I visited Jeff Hedberg in Milan,

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Italy last Friday.

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I was there visiting him,

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and so I'm in contact with his brother as well.

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I'm trying to piece together a few of the puzzles

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to figure out

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Why this,

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a few important items.

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Why, you know,

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why no Burke ever got these letters in 2013?

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There were four of us.

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Russ at Manchester.

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Yes.

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And I couldn't help as

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to what I...

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It's funny you say that,

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Glenn, because I was wondering what the definition of a witness was.

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Was this a potential victim or was it just one of

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the students who happened to hear things or,

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you know,

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know of a few stories?

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I wasn't sure what that word meant.

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I don't know what it means.

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This

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is the thing,

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Glenn, because...

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I've been supporting Rich financially and psychologically for the last 30 years

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with a fair amount of money,

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time, and energy.

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If you look at our trajectory,

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there are four burks,

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right? Ed's a surgeon.

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He's now in Iraq working for the U .S.

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military as a surgical consultant.

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He comes back Wednesday back to California.

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Damon is an engineer.

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I've worked as a mathematician in Europe for financial companies.

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We're all successful.

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who has been unemployed for 30 years.

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And instead of going,

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you know,

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around visiting places,

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you know, from one friend to another,

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all I saw from the documents I read was that he's been running from one psychologist to

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another psychotherapist to another shrink for the last 40 years.

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And that's already

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a good sign because my brother has been unemployed for 30 years.

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He's had problems trusting men.

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He's always,

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of course, a great natural professor.

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He doesn't have a job.

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That's why I'm supporting him.

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And, you know,

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it's come to a point where it's obvious now where the correlation is.

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Why three Berks are successful?

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Doctor,

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mathematician,

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engineer, and one is unemployed,

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recovering alcoholic with lots of problems and disturbed patterns

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of behavior.

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Exactly.

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Exactly.

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It's a high correlation.

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there's no surprise to me that Chris is...

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Glenn,

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I've been speaking with some of the lads

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from Dexter,

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and I was speaking to George Carroll,

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and I said, George, were you a brother of Darcy?

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Because he was in our class.

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He said, I was sort of like a half unwilling brother.

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Technically,

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I was a neighbor,

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but we fought so much.

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I think I was grudgingly accepted as a sort

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of blood brother.

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neighbor and then I reflected upon it and upon those times and

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you know I wasn't sure with whom I fought more with the Dexter lads or with

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my own family with my own brothers yeah exactly

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you

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have an impeccable memory I'm shocked

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that you can remember that some things I do for little forget

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it so I

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had all that room excess capacity

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Glenn, are you able to confirm,

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beyond a shadow of a doubt,

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that he was there on the campus?

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Because he was sort of terminated after that European trip sometime.

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in the spring of 71,

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but he was still on the campus.

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That's what I understand.

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He was still on the campus.

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So there's two stories.

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There's one,

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the European trip,

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as I understand it.

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Alan Edwards was there.

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Ferguson went to accompany them because I think his father couldn't make

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it. So his wife took him as sort of,

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you know, take care of the kids sort of thing.

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And then,

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as I understand it,

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he assaulted Alan when he was there.

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And then they came back,

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they reported it to Finney,

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and Finney sort of terminated him.

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But he was still on the campus.

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Right.

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He ended up on that bank.

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He

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was.

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And so that would have been probably...

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How long a period of time I could stay.

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And

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would you remember roughly when that was a particular day?

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Was it like late spring,

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June, May,

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or...

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I'll just say two things.

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I'll just say two things.

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What you mentioned,

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Mr. Ferguson.

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So I knew him as Mr.

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Ferguson, and I didn't even know what that meant at the time,

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but we all knew the nickname Ferguson.

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No one called him Ferguson.

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So that was one thing which even we knew,

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but with no real understanding of what that meant.

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And the second was that I have a letter from...

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From Dexter,

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it's dated 20th of September,

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1971,

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and it says Ferguson resigned in June of 1971

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with a few other teachers,

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even though we know he was fired.

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So from Dexter's own documentation,

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I have that he resigned,

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okay?

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And here's a contradictory fact.

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From Dexter's own lawyers,

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Schwartz -Hannam,

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One of the lawyers revealed to me,

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to a friend of our family,

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that Ferguson was fired in the spring of –

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terminated.

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Okay, terminated.

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That was the word.

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Yeah.

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So terminated does not mean sent away.

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It means he was,

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well, we don't know what it means,

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really. But from the facts that I've gathered from the people I've spoken with,

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and there's a great man who's been helping me doing this research here,

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David Cornish,

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who's helping me piece a lot of these missing puzzles.

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The former Cornish.

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Yes, exactly.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So from what I can piece together,

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the lawyers who are telling him to say he was terminated in the spring of 1971,

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but apparently from what Rick saw,

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who was the business manager during the investigation in 2013,

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he says a few things that Ferguson may

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have been there because it would have caused a shock.

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to the teachers just to have someone,

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you know, physically removed and sort of fired,

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you know,

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right there.

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So he sort of hung around and then resigned,

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according to Dexter,

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along with other teachers.

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I have the list.

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I'm not sure if I sent that to Russ or not.

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But that's when many of

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the sexual assaults against my brother took place was 1970.

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peaking in 1971.

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And so Schwarzenegger's documentation

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says he's terminated,

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but we don't really know what that means.

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It seems he hung around and then was resigned in

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June of 1971.

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Yeah, so Carl's story,

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I think he'd be okay with me telling it because I met Jeff in Milan and

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Jeff immediately put me in contact with Carl because I asked Jeff,

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of course.

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And so Carl said that he was assaulted by Ferguson on a

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Sunday when Ferguson asked him if he wanted to learn how to ride a

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golf cart because Ferguson used to take a golf cart from the lower school to the upper school.

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Okay.

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Where he used to teach.

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So then he assaulted him and then

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Carl's parents went to

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see Fennie.

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And only then was Ferguson actually arrested

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by the Brookline police.

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Wow.

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Carl wrote that he was amazed

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by the number of Brookline police that were there to arrest

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him. So there were actually two reports,

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one from Alan Edwards.

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probably in January,

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maybe after they got back from their Christmas break.

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But I still can't confirm that it was a Christmas break.

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Maybe it was a spring break.

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I don't know.

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And then the second time from Carl's parents.

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So they had two reports.

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Yeah.

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But apparently he was still there.

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But I would love to get in touch with Alan Edwards to

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find out the details of when he reported it.

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Ferguson, if you know a pedophile,

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I think Glenn probably read you that Schwarzenegger's lawyer

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said that he was terminated in the spring of 71,

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registered as a pedophile in 1985 by the Massachusetts,

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and then for assaulting his own stepchildren,

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and then convicted on child

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pornography in 2000 when he was jailed

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for 36 months.

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And Carl also wrote to me that when the police

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took his apartment,

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like the rest of him in his apartment,

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they found lots of child pornography.

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And his wife,

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I didn't know Ferguson was married at the time,

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but his wife said she knew nothing about it.

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So there seemed to be two reports,

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but Carl also said that three other students came forward,

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apart from him.

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and Alan,

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or maybe Alan was one of those three,

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but then my brother would be five.

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But again, no Burke ever got any of those letters,

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even though we had that house in 2013.

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No, yeah,

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it just said two.

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It said two credible accounts were

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recorded, something like that.

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I could get out the letter.

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It said 18 witnesses were interviewed,

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and there were two credible accounts.

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I think those two credible accounts were Alan and Carl,

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and the 18 witnesses were probably people like you,

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your brother,

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and other people.

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I think they probably don't.

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Yes.

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That's what I was thinking.

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Yeah,

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I think so.

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I don't know that.

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pretty small.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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Jurisdiction.

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Europe.

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Yes.

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And then the other one,

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the other.

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And that's Carl.

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No, it was nothing to do with embarrassment.

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Carl, he said,

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you know what?

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He said he escaped from Ferguson.

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You know, he assaulted him,

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tried to.

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He escaped and rode his bicycle back home and then told

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his mother.

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His mother told their father,

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of course.

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And that's when Ferguson was actually physically arrested.

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It wasn't by Alan.

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And Carl said,

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you know,

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He tried to assault me,

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but I won.

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I escaped.

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And I never wanted a settlement.

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I wasn't interested in it.

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It wasn't anything that...

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So it wasn't that he didn't want to go forward because he was embarrassed or anything.

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It's just like because he didn't want a settlement.

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And, you know,

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he was never scarred by it like my brother,

19:15

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

who was repeatedly raped.

19:16

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

He was only...

19:18

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah,

19:22

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

it wasn't.

19:23

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

He said he was never scarred by it,

19:24

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

which I was like, great.

19:25

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

You were one of the lucky ones who escaped.

19:28

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

But my real fear is that the entire investigation

19:32

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

conducted by Schwarzenegger,

19:34

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

who's both representing Dexter and doing the investigation,

19:37

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

it sounds like a conflict of interest.

19:39

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And from the facts,

19:40

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I've gathered that I've contacted 14 people from various

19:45

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

age groups from 72 graduation till 75.

19:49

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And of the 14 people I contacted,

19:52

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

seven got letters,

19:53

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

seven did not.

19:56

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And one of my friends from 72, John Warner, he said he didn't

20:00

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

any of those two letters i said john did you give it any donation letters he said i

20:04

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

absolutely did so we're

20:12

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

not going to get any oil out of this blood sucker you

20:17

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

cheap

20:26

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

bastard no i'm joking yeah

20:35

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

probably rightfully so um

20:39

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah.

20:40

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So what we did is

20:44

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

we sent a letter to Dexter through a lawyer and their

20:48

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

lawyers rejected it.

20:49

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

They said in the first page,

20:51

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

we consider these cases very,

20:53

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

very seriously.

20:54

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And by the end of the second page,

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S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

we reject this.

21:00

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So that's where I am.

21:01

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And we spoke with Todd Vincent.

21:03

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And we're supposed to have a second call.

21:06

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So Ed and I,

21:07

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

so Ed pitched in from Iraq.

21:09

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

We had a Zoom call.

21:11

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Ed was in Iraq.

21:12

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I was in Europe.

21:12

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And Todd listened to us for

21:17

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

15 minutes.

21:17

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And he said,

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S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

okay, let's do this.

21:19

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Let's set up a second meeting.

21:23

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And he did.

21:23

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

The very next day,

21:24

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

he organized a second meeting for two weeks in

21:28

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

the future.

21:29

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

That was on December 4th.

21:31

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And then the Friday before,

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S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

he canceled it and said,

21:35

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

speak to the lawyers.

21:36

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So that's where we are.

22:47

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

22:48

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And in some ways,

22:49

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

his hands are tied.

22:50

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

You know, he has to follow the protocol of what the lawyers say.

22:54

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

But from what I can gather,

22:57

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I mean, that's why,

22:58

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know, I haven't approached the lawyers yet because I want to

23:02

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

sort of do some more fact -finding research to figure out,

23:06

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

okay, what went on really?

23:08

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And how many more potential victims never came forward

23:12

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

because either they never got the letter,

23:15

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

which I'm going to guess is a lot of them,

23:17

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

or simply don't want to get their,

23:20

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know,

23:21

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

like Carl said,

23:22

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know, forget it.

23:23

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

It was a failed assault.

23:24

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I successfully escaped,

23:26

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

and therefore, you know,

23:27

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I wasn't aggrieved.

23:30

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I never suffered mentally from it.

23:32

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So there could be a mixture of potential victims.

23:35

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So it's not only for my brother.

23:37

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

It's actually for,

23:38

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know, to get a clean closure on this.

23:41

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

The investigation,

23:42

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I believe,

23:43

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

was flawed.

23:43

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I could be wrong.

23:44

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

But it's just from my initial investigations of having spoken with 14

23:49

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

or 15 people or so to find out,

23:52

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

one, who got the letters.

23:53

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Two,

23:54

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

if they didn't get a letter,

23:55

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

did they get any donation letters,

23:56

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

which seems to be the case.

23:58

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So clearly,

23:59

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know,

24:01

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

in the letters that Dexter sent in 2013,

24:04

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

May and August,

24:04

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

they said they sent them to the entire Dexter community.

24:06

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

But I know this to be a lie.

24:09

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

because one,

24:10

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

we've had the same house for 60 years and we never,

24:13

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

none of us, four,

24:13

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

none of us got a letter.

24:15

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And other people did not as well.

24:17

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And so it wasn't sent to the entire Dexter community.

24:21

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And second most salient fact is that Rick Saul,

24:24

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

the business manager at the time,

24:26

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

2013, his name is on those two letters with Todd's.

24:28

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

He told us that Dexter never investigated

24:32

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

the lower school.

24:33

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And that's where his office was and that's where the computer center was.

24:37

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And that's where Richard was.

24:39

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So it seems to me that this investigation was...

24:44

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

perhaps a conflict of interest,

24:45

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know, you should have,

24:47

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I would guess,

24:48

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know more than me,

24:49

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

but I would guess you would have,

24:50

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know,

24:50

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

the lawyers representing Dexter,

24:51

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

but then maybe the independent investigator doing the actual investigation and not the

24:56

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

same lawyers doing both.

24:57

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah,

25:14

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

yeah, no,

25:15

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

yeah. Well,

25:16

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

yes and no.

25:17

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I mean, I guess the first point is they should have contacted everyone because then more people would have

25:21

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

come forward.

25:21

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

We would have come forward for starters.

25:24

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I don't think anybody.

25:26

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Paul

25:41

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Ferguson.

25:50

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

There's absolutely no way.

25:51

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah,

26:15

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

he used to watch like a creep in the showers.

26:17

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Somebody already told me.

26:20

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

What do you have to say?

26:20

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yes.

26:37

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

No,

26:39

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

absolutely.

26:47

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I had that report from another fellow student at Dexter,

26:50

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

from one of the 14 I spoke with,

26:51

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

who mentioned exactly that.

26:53

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yes.

27:13

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Absolutely,

27:15

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

yeah.

27:44

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah,

27:50

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

that all fits in with some of the other stories.

27:56

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

That I'm hearing.

27:57

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah.

27:57

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah.

28:01

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I

28:06

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

don't remember the man too well,

28:07

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

personally, because I never had him as a math teacher.

28:09

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

So I never had him.

28:11

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I only knew the nickname Faggason.

28:13

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And so I had very little interaction with him during my

28:17

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

four or five years there.

28:19

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Oh,

28:40

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

really? No

28:45

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

worries. No worries.

28:46

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I'm sorry?

28:47

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

No worries.

28:48

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Go ahead.

28:49

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Go ahead.

28:49

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Deal with that.

28:49

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

And we'll catch up maybe tomorrow or,

28:52

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

you know.

28:56

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Great, great.

28:56

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Okay.

28:57

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah.

28:57

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

No worries.

29:01

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Yeah, yeah, it is.

29:02

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

It's quarter to midnight.

29:02

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Great.

29:03

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Well, let me give you a call later in the week then.

29:06

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Okay.

29:07

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Thank you so

29:11

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

much for the time.

29:12

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Okay.

29:13

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I

29:20

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

will indeed, sir.

29:20

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Okay.

29:21

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

All right.

29:22

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

I'll talk a little later.

29:23

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Whatever then.

29:24

S… Speaker 2 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Ciao, ciao.

29:24

S… Speaker 1 (Glenn Dalrymple)

Thanks.

Glenn Dalrymple

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