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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's kind of how you do it.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Sorry,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I wanted to record this.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And so like,

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I'm mostly just a graphic designer and kind of fell into this new

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little venture of ours.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And we've been doing it a lot more.

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And where we're finding the most frustration is

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that all of a sudden people delete our landing pages.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

What?

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

This has happened four times now and I've contacted them and they're like,

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it's a known issue.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

There's nothing we can do.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

That's terrible.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

There's nothing we can do.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So all those like days of work,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

gone.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So not cool.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So unless like I make a template,

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like when I'm done,

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like that's the only way we kind of have an existing copy.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I'm just I don't know why this keeps happening and they have

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no solutions for me.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So like that's the biggest issue.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

For me, and it just happened last Friday,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

actually, for us.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Again.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So it's recent,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

recent as of Friday.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

As of Friday,

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

this has happened.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So what happens when you go into it?

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's blank.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So the page technically is still there,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but all your content is gone.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Wow.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yep.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I don't really know why that keeps happening.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And have you published it?

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Like, have you gone through?

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So it's published.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And so,

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like, if you view the public.

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published page the content is typically still

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

there so like i'm able to screenshot if i hadn't like uh

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

saved a template um but

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it's just but it's empty when you go but it's empty so it's like i can't go in and edit that

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

existing url and so then when we've had trainings

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we're like oh we need to change this stuff

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But we can't.

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And so then we're running into like,

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

oh, we have to make another one and the URL matching because we've

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already put it out there into the world.

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So that's been our biggest frustration.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I just I don't know.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't know why.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Well,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

for a while,

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we wondered if it was because Alyssa was using my user account.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

No, no,

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that shouldn't have anything.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

yeah I wasn't sure either or I didn't know if like people were on the page

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

when I was on the page but I mean technically two people shouldn't be able

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

to be in the same campaign at all right right so yeah

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

that shouldn't yeah it definitely sounds like they've got some major issue

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

going on with the builder if it's just yeah yeah and then um

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

we just created like a different um page

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and then we had to loop in um

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

sorry about my dog i don't know oh i can't hear okay good but i

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

can hear um and she said like because it's

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an saas platform um like

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it has limiting capabilities so we

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

might just have to pivot and go to a different platform

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

um

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

because we're using it so much and we can't continue to lose our work you

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

know it's just not a good that's not good yeah so I

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

don't know how we want to proceed from there I can kind of show you how I'm yeah let's let's

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

do that and then let's also make sure we save some time to

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

kind of go over what you just addressed Laura like what might be some of those other

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

options that you thought of um

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Because because you guys do you guys do Facebook ads?

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Do you do meta ads?

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yes,

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but that's mostly our like owner company Ensemble pretty much

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does all of our meta ads for us.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And are they using these pages that you're building for meta ads?

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Do you know?

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So that's where there's been some issues,

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too, because it's like if that's live,

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then and then it's like we have to change something,

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but it's gone.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, so.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So we'll just want,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

just one thing to note if,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

and I just want to put this out there so it's on the recording and we have it.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't forget to say this one really big thing is if you guys are thinking of moving to

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

another system to do like landing pages,

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you know,

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those types of things we want to make sure.

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When we're doing it,

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we use the native opt -in form code.

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Like you'll, even though it would be easier and nicer to use,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like if they have a native API where you could just say connect to keep.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And if this tag is applied,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

add them.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Like there's some native integrations with other software.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Problem is.

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Keep won't recognize that as a true opt -in if it's through that

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API.

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And actually a lot of systems,

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it's not just keep active campaigns the same way.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Like they actually want somebody to fill their form,

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like to be compliant.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So what we have found is I have other clients who have used

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the API and they've maybe had somebody that's unsubscribed,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but now they're doing all these leads,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

these Facebook.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

and they're paying all this money,

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but the client status,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

even though they've come back in for that,

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whatever they,

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their status is still unmarketable because they technically didn't.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So I just don't want that to happen for you.

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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So I just want to,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I just saw this happen a couple of weeks ago.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I was like, Oh my gosh,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

probably could be,

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

um,

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S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I, I don't know necessarily the ins and outs.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

If you're using the keep one,

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we're good because it's going to,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm just saying,

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if we look at others,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

we're going to want to make sure that we,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

that you would build those and you would bring in keep code and not integrate

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it through.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So just putting it out there,

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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm happy to,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

if we get to that,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I can help you.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I just always want to speak that as you're thinking of other.

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software that that is going to be really key if we're doing meta ads because you have a bigger

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chance of somebody coming back into the to the system.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think where we are is like they want to move over to something

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else that is a little bit easier.

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And that won't have these issues.

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So if you do have some ones that maybe talk a little bit better with

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Keep, we are open to that.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I know that Ensemble has some suggestions for us too.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So maybe we can talk about that.

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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah, we can talk about that at the end.

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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So Hillary gave me a couple to share with you,

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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Amber. And I think that message you just said,

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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

maybe we should send this recording to Hillary then too.

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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, Alyssa is doing a lot of the building,

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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but Hillary's taking it and doing the marketing part of it.

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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So that piece of it might be more important for her to hear for sure.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yep.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Okay.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So I will share my page here.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

mostly like where I'm going in is marketing.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I do a little bit with like campaign building,

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but not,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

not like too much in some email,

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but.

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now mostly like landing pages.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So here's all of our landing

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pages.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

The one that we most recently

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

did, I just don't know if I want to,

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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

what's best for you?

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

You don't want to discover something.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Um, let's see here.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Okay. Or if you just,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

yeah. Or if you just create like,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like your process and what you do when you create a new one.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So it depends because,

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um,

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like we have this like enrollment accelerator

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and then we'll have it again in like a different month.

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So a lot of times like I'll copy that page and then I'll like change

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stuff.

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And so,

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like, I don't know if maybe copying pages has been,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like, a culprit of things,

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too.

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It literally

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just depends.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So let's just say,

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like, this enrollment fall jumpstart.

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And

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

my computer is always so beautifully small.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Especially when you're screen sharing,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it seems to.

8:03

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

8:04

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So a lot of the times I'm building both

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for.

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S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

desktop and mobile.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So that's why on the back end to people,

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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know,

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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it looks crazy.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

No,

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I know exactly what that looks like.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I'm glad you're doing that.

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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yes.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So that's all mobile stuff.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So a lot of the time.

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It just kind of depends.

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I'll like play with obviously the columns,

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spacing,

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everything.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Rarely do I use like any code or anything.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Like I said,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm not a coder.

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So I don't know if that would be better for Keep.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't know.

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But mostly I'm just building it,

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you know, with the tools that are right in Keep.

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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I mean,

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't know if there's anything like riveting to share about that.

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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

We do use like these forms occasionally,

9:06

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but a lot of the times we have like a different

9:12

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

form that Laura will create and

9:16

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

then we'll just use it in one of the buttons as like a link.

9:19

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So

9:24

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I don't know.

9:27

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

That's really all I have.

9:30

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's a lot,

9:31

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Alyssa.

9:31

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I mean, this is a lot of work you put into these.

9:34

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

These look great.

9:34

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Oh,

9:35

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I agree.

9:35

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Well, I'm just like,

9:36

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know,

9:37

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm just learning and I'm getting better with everyone that I do.

9:41

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And then,

9:43

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, like the true desktop like form here isn't

9:47

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

necessarily always what it truly looks like on your phone.

9:50

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So that's where like sometimes I have some disconnect and I also have

9:55

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

a huge iMac.

10:00

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, sometimes seeing things,

10:01

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm like, oh, this looks so good.

10:03

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And then other people will be like,

10:04

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

this doesn't look great.

10:06

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So it's hard to,

10:08

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't know,

10:09

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

sometimes find the true,

10:11

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like what it truly looks like.

10:13

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So,

10:16

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

yeah.

10:17

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So are there any frustrations that

10:22

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you're running into besides the content being on,

10:23

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

which is huge?

10:24

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Is there,

10:26

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

are there any other frustrations as you kind of are building these?

10:31

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

that you find you're running into?

10:33

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Um,

10:35

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I would say no,

10:37

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like, I feel like it's pretty easy and straightforward.

10:40

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Um,

10:41

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

the only issue that I have,

10:43

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like I said, is really just when things decide to not save and,

10:48

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

or, and,

10:49

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

or delete.

10:50

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

10:51

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So,

10:51

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

um,

10:52

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but other than that,

10:54

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I mean, it's pretty easy.

10:57

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, coming from somebody that doesn't know how to build things.

11:00

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

11:01

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I mean,

11:02

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

being in graphics,

11:03

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, I'm sure,

11:04

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, cause the only,

11:05

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I was thinking back on our call last week where I'm

11:11

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

not sure if it was Hillary who said this,

11:14

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but the load speeds were,

11:16

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

were slow.

11:19

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And so I know that can be with any page if it's graphic heavy,

11:22

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

right?

11:23

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So, you know,

11:23

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

if we're using more optimized size,

11:26

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like that's the only thing I could think of after I got off the call,

11:29

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I thought, I wonder what else we could do to help those page speeds if

11:34

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

we can't do much besides,

11:36

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

which I'm sure you know,

11:37

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know, optimizing the images.

11:39

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah,

11:42

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

we did that with one.

11:44

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Actually, this just actually came about.

11:49

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

was that like speed and so you know I'm I was just

11:53

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

first doing them like visually you know oh yeah this is great and

11:57

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

then coming from people that actually knew what they're doing they're like oh this needs

12:01

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

to be way more simplified um which

12:06

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I totally understand and and did help a little bit and I did

12:10

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

do some of the imaging suggestions that that it said optimizing those

12:14

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

images um

12:17

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

But I mean,

12:17

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like when I go on my lap,

12:19

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like phone,

12:20

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it's not lingering.

12:22

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's not like super slow or anything.

12:25

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I hadn't ever had that issue.

12:28

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

But now it's something like I'll,

12:31

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

we'll be more aware of.

12:34

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Sure.

12:34

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

12:35

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So.

12:36

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

But yeah,

12:38

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

no, I mean, you're definitely doing the right thing by having the different sections for mobile and desktop.

12:42

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So yeah,

12:43

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

that looks.

12:45

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah, I mean,

12:46

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it is frustrating sometimes when you can't change certain things

12:50

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

within, you know,

12:51

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like I'm in desktop.

12:52

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So there's only like certain things that I would be able to sometimes do here.

12:56

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

12:57

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

As opposed like,

13:00

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'd have to go back into desktop,

13:02

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know,

13:04

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

on see it.

13:07

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

in mobile or whatever you know what I'm saying and then change it I do

13:11

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

yeah it makes it like yeah I get that so

13:15

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

then I'm like oh wait is this actually on mobile or is this one on desktop so

13:20

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

yeah sometimes it just can be a little like whiplashing I guess but

13:24

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but yeah no other than that like I said I think

13:28

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it's pretty straightforward um so I

13:34

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

don't have like any complaints in that sense uh

13:40

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Can I add something?

13:41

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Please,

13:42

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

yeah. One thing,

13:43

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Alyssa,

13:44

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

that I think is going to be great.

13:46

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Now, you might not be doing the big builds here anymore.

13:49

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Maybe they'll be on a different platform.

13:51

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

But when I saw that you had a form embedded

13:56

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

in there.

13:57

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Amber, we definitely need to get your eyes on how those forms are and how the contacts are

14:01

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

coming through, because sometimes I just see funky contacts coming through and I don't know why.

14:05

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And it is sort of like the weird names,

14:08

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like they've got lots of characters in their first name.

14:11

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Is that the kind of odd stuff you're seeing?

14:13

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Well, not not so much that,

14:15

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but like duplicate contacts suddenly.

14:17

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And like and then I didn't really you know,

14:19

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't look at these landing pages.

14:20

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Maybe some of this is maybe contacts are coming through in a different way.

14:24

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Just want to make sure that.

14:26

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I would talk to Hillary then because she sets up the forms.

14:29

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Like on the back end.

14:31

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't do any of that.

14:33

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So what's your process?

14:35

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Do you bring in a form,

14:36

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Alyssa, that's already created?

14:37

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

What's your process when you're building a page with a form?

14:40

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's like rare.

14:42

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's like one out of 10 times,

14:44

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'd say.

14:44

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Just for this one we did,

14:47

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think.

14:48

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Let me go to it.

14:51

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah,

14:52

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

right there.

14:53

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I think.

14:54

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think it was already like on the page,

14:58

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like the.

15:00

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

template or something um but hillary hillary does

15:04

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

this part i don't i don't do it so like this is the kind of thing that amber

15:08

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

will tie all things together like what i'm seeing in contacts what you're seeing in

15:12

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

building and what hillary is doing like we just need somebody to tie these

15:16

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

types of things together so something that you did that hillary gave you doesn't

15:21

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

have an unintended effect for me and same with

15:25

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

um

15:26

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I had said to Randy once about,

15:28

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

oh, I changed some of the tags.

15:30

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And she goes, oh, Alyssa built those tags.

15:31

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm like, okay.

15:32

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So again, like Amber will help us come up with like some

15:37

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

standard practices,

15:38

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like a base that we'll all use.

15:40

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So if I'm doing tagging,

15:42

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

naming, or you are Alyssa or Hillary's like - I'm not doing

15:47

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

tags other than that free downloaded

15:51

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

resource.

15:53

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

That's the only thing I do any sort of tagging

15:57

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

with.

15:58

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And that's once a month.

15:59

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So there's a few things that cross over,

16:02

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

not a lot.

16:03

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Like I don't know how to build landing pages.

16:05

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think this looks great.

16:06

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't do any of this,

16:08

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know?

16:08

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So, but there's a couple of things that tie us all together and

16:13

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

just to have a good base for all of us to be working from is one

16:17

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

of the things we need.

16:18

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Just so things are,

16:18

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

we all are working from the same place going forward in the ways we are,

16:22

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like from the same tree trunk.

16:24

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Right.

16:26

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I love that.

16:27

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And Amber,

16:28

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

back to your question.

16:29

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think if it wasn't already there,

16:31

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like in the template,

16:32

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I just take,

16:33

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know,

16:33

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

from content.

16:35

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And I would drag it over.

16:36

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Just pull in a new form.

16:38

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

16:38

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Okay.

16:39

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So like, I wonder,

16:40

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

does it, are there selections on forms where it would audit?

16:44

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Sometimes Alyssa,

16:45

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I see a new contact and it's got a company record.

16:49

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm like, why,

16:49

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

why does that have a company record?

16:51

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I create company records when I need them.

16:53

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So like,

16:54

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

are there settings that would create company records?

16:56

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Are there settings that.

17:01

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I feel like there's just been a few funky things sometimes I'll see on a record.

17:04

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I'm like, where did that come from?

17:06

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And so I just don't know if there's settings,

17:10

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like when you pull a form and,

17:11

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

you know,

17:12

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

who knows?

17:15

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

They're minor,

17:17

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but, you know.

17:17

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So,

17:22

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like, I just pulled in a blank form.

17:24

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

But

17:31

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think you have to create stuff on the back end,

17:34

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

the tag or whatever,

17:35

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

right?

17:36

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Don't you?

17:37

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So,

17:38

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like.

17:38

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think if we've done it before,

17:40

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like she,

17:42

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

she would link it.

17:44

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't,

17:44

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't know.

17:45

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

She would go in and apply the tag.

17:47

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I think so.

17:47

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

And if you scroll up a little bit,

17:50

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

there's the URL.

17:51

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

17:53

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

For the button for the thanks page.

17:59

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So I think that's how we've done it.

18:01

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

But typically we're not using that.

18:04

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's,

18:05

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

it's more so like you've already made one,

18:07

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Laura, you know,

18:09

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

for like, let's say like teacher training or those

18:14

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

order forms,

18:15

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

we would put in that button and they would go to that URL.

18:19

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yeah.

18:20

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't think,

18:21

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I don't think order forms are problem.

18:23

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

It's more like signing up for things type forms like here.

18:28

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Makes me wonder if there's best,

18:31

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

better practices for that kind of thing,

18:33

S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

just to protect what's coming through.

18:34

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Sure.

18:35

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Yep.

18:37

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I can look at that as well.

18:38

S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Okay.

18:39

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

So that's,

18:42

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

that's really all I do.

18:45

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

There's probably more I could be doing

18:49

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

on the,

18:50

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

like I noticed this one does have like a

18:54

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

Google analytics and pixel.

18:59

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I had never put that in,

19:01

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but maybe Hillary

19:07

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

did,

19:08

S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

probably.

19:09

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

We just discovered more pop -ups,

19:13

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

but we haven't actually utilized it yet.

19:17

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

I know how to create that.

19:18

S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)

We

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