GMT20260507-190433_Recording

May 08, 2026 22:18 · 59:24 · English · Whisper Turbo · 8 Cynhadledd
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's kind of how you do it.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sorry,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I wanted to record this.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so like,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm mostly just a graphic designer and kind of fell into this new
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little venture of ours.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And we've been doing it a lot more.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And where we're finding the most frustration is
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that all of a sudden people delete our landing pages.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
What?
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This has happened four times now and I've contacted them and they're like,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's a known issue.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There's nothing we can do.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's terrible.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There's nothing we can do.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So all those like days of work,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
gone.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So not cool.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So unless like I make a template,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like when I'm done,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like that's the only way we kind of have an existing copy.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I'm just I don't know why this keeps happening and they have
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
no solutions for me.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like that's the biggest issue.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
For me, and it just happened last Friday,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
actually, for us.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Again.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's recent,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
recent as of Friday.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
As of Friday,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this has happened.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So what happens when you go into it?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's blank.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So the page technically is still there,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but all your content is gone.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Wow.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I don't really know why that keeps happening.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And have you published it?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like, have you gone through?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's published.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, if you view the public.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
published page the content is typically still
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there so like i'm able to screenshot if i hadn't like uh
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
saved a template um but
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's just but it's empty when you go but it's empty so it's like i can't go in and edit that
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
existing url and so then when we've had trainings
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're like oh we need to change this stuff
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But we can't.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so then we're running into like,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh, we have to make another one and the URL matching because we've
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
already put it out there into the world.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's been our biggest frustration.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I just I don't know.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know why.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for a while,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we wondered if it was because Alyssa was using my user account.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
No, no,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that shouldn't have anything.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah I wasn't sure either or I didn't know if like people were on the page
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
when I was on the page but I mean technically two people shouldn't be able
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to be in the same campaign at all right right so yeah
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that shouldn't yeah it definitely sounds like they've got some major issue
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
going on with the builder if it's just yeah yeah and then um
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we just created like a different um page
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and then we had to loop in um
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sorry about my dog i don't know oh i can't hear okay good but i
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
can hear um and she said like because it's
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
an saas platform um like
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it has limiting capabilities so we
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
might just have to pivot and go to a different platform
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because we're using it so much and we can't continue to lose our work you
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
know it's just not a good that's not good yeah so I
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
don't know how we want to proceed from there I can kind of show you how I'm yeah let's let's
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do that and then let's also make sure we save some time to
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
kind of go over what you just addressed Laura like what might be some of those other
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
options that you thought of um
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Because because you guys do you guys do Facebook ads?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you do meta ads?
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but that's mostly our like owner company Ensemble pretty much
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
does all of our meta ads for us.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And are they using these pages that you're building for meta ads?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you know?
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's where there's been some issues,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
too, because it's like if that's live,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then and then it's like we have to change something,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but it's gone.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, so.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So we'll just want,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just one thing to note if,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and I just want to put this out there so it's on the recording and we have it.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't forget to say this one really big thing is if you guys are thinking of moving to
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
another system to do like landing pages,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
those types of things we want to make sure.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
When we're doing it,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we use the native opt -in form code.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like you'll, even though it would be easier and nicer to use,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like if they have a native API where you could just say connect to keep.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And if this tag is applied,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
add them.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like there's some native integrations with other software.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Problem is.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Keep won't recognize that as a true opt -in if it's through that
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API.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And actually a lot of systems,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's not just keep active campaigns the same way.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like they actually want somebody to fill their form,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like to be compliant.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So what we have found is I have other clients who have used
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the API and they've maybe had somebody that's unsubscribed,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but now they're doing all these leads,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
these Facebook.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and they're paying all this money,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but the client status,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
even though they've come back in for that,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
whatever they,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
their status is still unmarketable because they technically didn't.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I just don't want that to happen for you.
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I just want to,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just saw this happen a couple of weeks ago.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was like, Oh my gosh,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
probably could be,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um,
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S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I, I don't know necessarily the ins and outs.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
If you're using the keep one,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're good because it's going to,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just saying,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if we look at others,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're going to want to make sure that we,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that you would build those and you would bring in keep code and not integrate
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it through.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So just putting it out there,
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm happy to,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if we get to that,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can help you.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just always want to speak that as you're thinking of other.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
software that that is going to be really key if we're doing meta ads because you have a bigger
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
chance of somebody coming back into the to the system.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think where we are is like they want to move over to something
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
else that is a little bit easier.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And that won't have these issues.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So if you do have some ones that maybe talk a little bit better with
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Keep, we are open to that.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I know that Ensemble has some suggestions for us too.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So maybe we can talk about that.
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, we can talk about that at the end.
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So Hillary gave me a couple to share with you,
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Amber. And I think that message you just said,
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
maybe we should send this recording to Hillary then too.
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, Alyssa is doing a lot of the building,
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but Hillary's taking it and doing the marketing part of it.
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that piece of it might be more important for her to hear for sure.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I will share my page here.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
mostly like where I'm going in is marketing.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I do a little bit with like campaign building,
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but not,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not like too much in some email,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
now mostly like landing pages.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So here's all of our landing
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
pages.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The one that we most recently
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
did, I just don't know if I want to,
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what's best for you?
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You don't want to discover something.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Um, let's see here.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay. Or if you just,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah. Or if you just create like,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like your process and what you do when you create a new one.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it depends because,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like we have this like enrollment accelerator
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and then we'll have it again in like a different month.
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So a lot of times like I'll copy that page and then I'll like change
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stuff.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, I don't know if maybe copying pages has been,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, a culprit of things,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
too.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It literally
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just depends.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So let's just say,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, this enrollment fall jumpstart.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
my computer is always so beautifully small.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Especially when you're screen sharing,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it seems to.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So a lot of the times I'm building both
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for.
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S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
desktop and mobile.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's why on the back end to people,
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it looks crazy.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
No,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I know exactly what that looks like.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I'm glad you're doing that.
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's all mobile stuff.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So a lot of the time.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It just kind of depends.
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I'll like play with obviously the columns,
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spacing,
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everything.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Rarely do I use like any code or anything.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I said,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm not a coder.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I don't know if that would be better for Keep.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But mostly I'm just building it,
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you know, with the tools that are right in Keep.
8:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean,
8:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know if there's anything like riveting to share about that.
9:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We do use like these forms occasionally,
9:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but a lot of the times we have like a different
9:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
form that Laura will create and
9:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then we'll just use it in one of the buttons as like a link.
9:19
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So
9:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know.
9:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's really all I have.
9:30
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's a lot,
9:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa.
9:31
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, this is a lot of work you put into these.
9:34
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
These look great.
9:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh,
9:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I agree.
9:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, I'm just like,
9:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
9:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just learning and I'm getting better with everyone that I do.
9:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then,
9:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, like the true desktop like form here isn't
9:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
necessarily always what it truly looks like on your phone.
9:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's where like sometimes I have some disconnect and I also have
9:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
a huge iMac.
10:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, sometimes seeing things,
10:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, oh, this looks so good.
10:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then other people will be like,
10:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this doesn't look great.
10:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's hard to,
10:08
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know,
10:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sometimes find the true,
10:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like what it truly looks like.
10:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
10:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah.
10:17
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So are there any frustrations that
10:22
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you're running into besides the content being on,
10:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which is huge?
10:24
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Is there,
10:26
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
are there any other frustrations as you kind of are building these?
10:31
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that you find you're running into?
10:33
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Um,
10:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would say no,
10:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, I feel like it's pretty easy and straightforward.
10:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Um,
10:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the only issue that I have,
10:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like I said, is really just when things decide to not save and,
10:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
or, and,
10:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
or delete.
10:50
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
10:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
10:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um,
10:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but other than that,
10:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, it's pretty easy.
10:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, coming from somebody that doesn't know how to build things.
11:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
11:01
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I mean,
11:02
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
being in graphics,
11:03
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, I'm sure,
11:04
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, cause the only,
11:05
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was thinking back on our call last week where I'm
11:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not sure if it was Hillary who said this,
11:14
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but the load speeds were,
11:16
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
were slow.
11:19
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so I know that can be with any page if it's graphic heavy,
11:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
11:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So, you know,
11:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if we're using more optimized size,
11:26
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like that's the only thing I could think of after I got off the call,
11:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I thought, I wonder what else we could do to help those page speeds if
11:34
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we can't do much besides,
11:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which I'm sure you know,
11:37
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, optimizing the images.
11:39
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
11:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we did that with one.
11:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Actually, this just actually came about.
11:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
was that like speed and so you know I'm I was just
11:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
first doing them like visually you know oh yeah this is great and
11:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then coming from people that actually knew what they're doing they're like oh this needs
12:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to be way more simplified um which
12:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I totally understand and and did help a little bit and I did
12:10
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do some of the imaging suggestions that that it said optimizing those
12:14
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
images um
12:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But I mean,
12:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like when I go on my lap,
12:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like phone,
12:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's not lingering.
12:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's not like super slow or anything.
12:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I hadn't ever had that issue.
12:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But now it's something like I'll,
12:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we'll be more aware of.
12:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sure.
12:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
12:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So.
12:36
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But yeah,
12:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
no, I mean, you're definitely doing the right thing by having the different sections for mobile and desktop.
12:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So yeah,
12:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that looks.
12:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, I mean,
12:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it is frustrating sometimes when you can't change certain things
12:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
within, you know,
12:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like I'm in desktop.
12:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So there's only like certain things that I would be able to sometimes do here.
12:56
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
12:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
As opposed like,
13:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'd have to go back into desktop,
13:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
13:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
on see it.
13:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
in mobile or whatever you know what I'm saying and then change it I do
13:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah it makes it like yeah I get that so
13:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then I'm like oh wait is this actually on mobile or is this one on desktop so
13:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah sometimes it just can be a little like whiplashing I guess but
13:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but yeah no other than that like I said I think
13:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's pretty straightforward um so I
13:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
don't have like any complaints in that sense uh
13:40
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Can I add something?
13:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Please,
13:42
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah. One thing,
13:43
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa,
13:44
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that I think is going to be great.
13:46
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Now, you might not be doing the big builds here anymore.
13:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Maybe they'll be on a different platform.
13:51
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But when I saw that you had a form embedded
13:56
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
in there.
13:57
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Amber, we definitely need to get your eyes on how those forms are and how the contacts are
14:01
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
coming through, because sometimes I just see funky contacts coming through and I don't know why.
14:05
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And it is sort of like the weird names,
14:08
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like they've got lots of characters in their first name.
14:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Is that the kind of odd stuff you're seeing?
14:13
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, not not so much that,
14:15
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but like duplicate contacts suddenly.
14:17
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And like and then I didn't really you know,
14:19
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't look at these landing pages.
14:20
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Maybe some of this is maybe contacts are coming through in a different way.
14:24
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just want to make sure that.
14:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would talk to Hillary then because she sets up the forms.
14:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like on the back end.
14:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't do any of that.
14:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So what's your process?
14:35
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you bring in a form,
14:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa, that's already created?
14:37
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
What's your process when you're building a page with a form?
14:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's like rare.
14:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's like one out of 10 times,
14:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'd say.
14:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just for this one we did,
14:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think.
14:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Let me go to it.
14:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
14:52
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right there.
14:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I think.
14:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it was already like on the page,
14:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like the.
15:00
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
template or something um but hillary hillary does
15:04
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this part i don't i don't do it so like this is the kind of thing that amber
15:08
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
will tie all things together like what i'm seeing in contacts what you're seeing in
15:12
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
building and what hillary is doing like we just need somebody to tie these
15:16
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
types of things together so something that you did that hillary gave you doesn't
15:21
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
have an unintended effect for me and same with
15:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um
15:26
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I had said to Randy once about,
15:28
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh, I changed some of the tags.
15:30
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And she goes, oh, Alyssa built those tags.
15:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, okay.
15:32
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So again, like Amber will help us come up with like some
15:37
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
standard practices,
15:38
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like a base that we'll all use.
15:40
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So if I'm doing tagging,
15:42
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
naming, or you are Alyssa or Hillary's like - I'm not doing
15:47
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
tags other than that free downloaded
15:51
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
resource.
15:53
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's the only thing I do any sort of tagging
15:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
with.
15:58
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And that's once a month.
15:59
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So there's a few things that cross over,
16:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not a lot.
16:03
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I don't know how to build landing pages.
16:05
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think this looks great.
16:06
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't do any of this,
16:08
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know?
16:08
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So, but there's a couple of things that tie us all together and
16:13
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just to have a good base for all of us to be working from is one
16:17
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
of the things we need.
16:18
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just so things are,
16:18
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we all are working from the same place going forward in the ways we are,
16:22
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like from the same tree trunk.
16:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
16:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I love that.
16:27
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And Amber,
16:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
back to your question.
16:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think if it wasn't already there,
16:31
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like in the template,
16:32
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just take,
16:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
16:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
from content.
16:35
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I would drag it over.
16:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just pull in a new form.
16:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
16:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
16:39
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like, I wonder,
16:40
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
does it, are there selections on forms where it would audit?
16:44
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sometimes Alyssa,
16:45
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I see a new contact and it's got a company record.
16:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, why,
16:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
why does that have a company record?
16:51
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I create company records when I need them.
16:53
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like,
16:54
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
are there settings that would create company records?
16:56
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Are there settings that.
17:01
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I feel like there's just been a few funky things sometimes I'll see on a record.
17:04
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, where did that come from?
17:06
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so I just don't know if there's settings,
17:10
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like when you pull a form and,
17:11
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
17:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
who knows?
17:15
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They're minor,
17:17
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but, you know.
17:17
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
17:22
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, I just pulled in a blank form.
17:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But
17:31
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think you have to create stuff on the back end,
17:34
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the tag or whatever,
17:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
17:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Don't you?
17:37
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
17:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like.
17:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think if we've done it before,
17:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like she,
17:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
she would link it.
17:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't,
17:44
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know.
17:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
She would go in and apply the tag.
17:47
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think so.
17:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And if you scroll up a little bit,
17:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there's the URL.
17:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
17:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
For the button for the thanks page.
17:59
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I think that's how we've done it.
18:01
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But typically we're not using that.
18:04
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's,
18:05
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's more so like you've already made one,
18:07
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Laura, you know,
18:09
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for like, let's say like teacher training or those
18:14
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
order forms,
18:15
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we would put in that button and they would go to that URL.
18:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
18:20
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't think,
18:21
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't think order forms are problem.
18:23
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's more like signing up for things type forms like here.
18:28
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Makes me wonder if there's best,
18:31
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
better practices for that kind of thing,
18:33
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just to protect what's coming through.
18:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sure.
18:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
18:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can look at that as well.
18:38
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
18:39
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's,
18:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that's really all I do.
18:45
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There's probably more I could be doing
18:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
on the,
18:50
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like I noticed this one does have like a
18:54
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Google analytics and pixel.
18:59
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I had never put that in,
19:01
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but maybe Hillary
19:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
did,
19:08
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
probably.
19:09
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We just discovered more pop -ups,
19:13
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but we haven't actually utilized it yet.
19:17
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I know how to create that.
19:18
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We

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