GMT20260507-190433_Recording

May 08, 2026 22:18 · 59:24 · English · Whisper Turbo · 8 speakers
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's kind of how you do it.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sorry,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I wanted to record this.
0:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so like,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm mostly just a graphic designer and kind of fell into this new
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
little venture of ours.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And we've been doing it a lot more.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And where we're finding the most frustration is
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that all of a sudden people delete our landing pages.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
What?
0:25
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
0:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This has happened four times now and I've contacted them and they're like,
0:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's a known issue.
0:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There's nothing we can do.
0:33
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's terrible.
0:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There's nothing we can do.
0:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So all those like days of work,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
gone.
0:39
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So not cool.
0:40
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
0:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So unless like I make a template,
0:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like when I'm done,
0:45
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like that's the only way we kind of have an existing copy.
0:49
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I'm just I don't know why this keeps happening and they have
0:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
no solutions for me.
0:54
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like that's the biggest issue.
0:57
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
For me, and it just happened last Friday,
0:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
actually, for us.
1:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Again.
1:01
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
1:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's recent,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
recent as of Friday.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
1:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
1:04
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
As of Friday,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this has happened.
1:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So what happens when you go into it?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's blank.
1:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So the page technically is still there,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but all your content is gone.
1:13
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Wow.
1:14
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
1:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I don't really know why that keeps happening.
1:18
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And have you published it?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like, have you gone through?
1:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's published.
1:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, if you view the public.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
published page the content is typically still
1:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there so like i'm able to screenshot if i hadn't like uh
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
saved a template um but
1:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's just but it's empty when you go but it's empty so it's like i can't go in and edit that
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
existing url and so then when we've had trainings
1:47
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're like oh we need to change this stuff
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But we can't.
1:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so then we're running into like,
1:54
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh, we have to make another one and the URL matching because we've
1:58
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
already put it out there into the world.
2:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's been our biggest frustration.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I just I don't know.
2:06
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know why.
2:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for a while,
2:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we wondered if it was because Alyssa was using my user account.
2:13
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
No, no,
2:14
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that shouldn't have anything.
2:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
2:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah I wasn't sure either or I didn't know if like people were on the page
2:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
when I was on the page but I mean technically two people shouldn't be able
2:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to be in the same campaign at all right right so yeah
2:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that shouldn't yeah it definitely sounds like they've got some major issue
2:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
going on with the builder if it's just yeah yeah and then um
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we just created like a different um page
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and then we had to loop in um
2:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sorry about my dog i don't know oh i can't hear okay good but i
2:49
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
can hear um and she said like because it's
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
an saas platform um like
2:58
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it has limiting capabilities so we
3:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
might just have to pivot and go to a different platform
3:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um
3:10
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because we're using it so much and we can't continue to lose our work you
3:14
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
know it's just not a good that's not good yeah so I
3:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
don't know how we want to proceed from there I can kind of show you how I'm yeah let's let's
3:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do that and then let's also make sure we save some time to
3:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
kind of go over what you just addressed Laura like what might be some of those other
3:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
options that you thought of um
3:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Because because you guys do you guys do Facebook ads?
3:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you do meta ads?
3:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes,
3:40
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but that's mostly our like owner company Ensemble pretty much
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
does all of our meta ads for us.
3:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And are they using these pages that you're building for meta ads?
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you know?
3:50
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
3:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's where there's been some issues,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
too, because it's like if that's live,
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then and then it's like we have to change something,
3:59
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but it's gone.
4:01
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, so.
4:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So we'll just want,
4:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just one thing to note if,
4:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and I just want to put this out there so it's on the recording and we have it.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't forget to say this one really big thing is if you guys are thinking of moving to
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
another system to do like landing pages,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
those types of things we want to make sure.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
When we're doing it,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we use the native opt -in form code.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like you'll, even though it would be easier and nicer to use,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like if they have a native API where you could just say connect to keep.
4:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And if this tag is applied,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
add them.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like there's some native integrations with other software.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Problem is.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Keep won't recognize that as a true opt -in if it's through that
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
API.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And actually a lot of systems,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's not just keep active campaigns the same way.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like they actually want somebody to fill their form,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like to be compliant.
4:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So what we have found is I have other clients who have used
4:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the API and they've maybe had somebody that's unsubscribed,
4:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but now they're doing all these leads,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
these Facebook.
5:00
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and they're paying all this money,
5:01
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but the client status,
5:02
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
even though they've come back in for that,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
whatever they,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
their status is still unmarketable because they technically didn't.
5:09
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I just don't want that to happen for you.
5:11
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I just want to,
5:12
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just saw this happen a couple of weeks ago.
5:14
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was like, Oh my gosh,
5:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
probably could be,
5:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um,
5:17
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
5:18
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I, I don't know necessarily the ins and outs.
5:21
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
If you're using the keep one,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're good because it's going to,
5:24
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just saying,
5:25
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if we look at others,
5:26
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're going to want to make sure that we,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that you would build those and you would bring in keep code and not integrate
5:32
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it through.
5:33
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So just putting it out there,
5:34
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm happy to,
5:35
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if we get to that,
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can help you.
5:37
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just always want to speak that as you're thinking of other.
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
software that that is going to be really key if we're doing meta ads because you have a bigger
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S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
chance of somebody coming back into the to the system.
5:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think where we are is like they want to move over to something
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
else that is a little bit easier.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And that won't have these issues.
5:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So if you do have some ones that maybe talk a little bit better with
6:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Keep, we are open to that.
6:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I know that Ensemble has some suggestions for us too.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So maybe we can talk about that.
6:10
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, we can talk about that at the end.
6:12
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So Hillary gave me a couple to share with you,
6:14
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Amber. And I think that message you just said,
6:16
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
maybe we should send this recording to Hillary then too.
6:20
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, Alyssa is doing a lot of the building,
6:22
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but Hillary's taking it and doing the marketing part of it.
6:25
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that piece of it might be more important for her to hear for sure.
6:29
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
6:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
6:29
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
6:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I will share my page here.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So
6:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
mostly like where I'm going in is marketing.
6:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I do a little bit with like campaign building,
6:47
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but not,
6:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not like too much in some email,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but.
6:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
now mostly like landing pages.
6:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So here's all of our landing
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
pages.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The one that we most recently
7:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
did, I just don't know if I want to,
7:07
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what's best for you?
7:10
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You don't want to discover something.
7:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
7:14
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Um, let's see here.
7:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay. Or if you just,
7:17
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah. Or if you just create like,
7:18
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like your process and what you do when you create a new one.
7:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it depends because,
7:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um,
7:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like we have this like enrollment accelerator
7:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and then we'll have it again in like a different month.
7:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So a lot of times like I'll copy that page and then I'll like change
7:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
stuff.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, I don't know if maybe copying pages has been,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, a culprit of things,
7:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
too.
7:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It literally
7:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just depends.
7:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So let's just say,
7:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, this enrollment fall jumpstart.
7:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And
7:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
my computer is always so beautifully small.
8:01
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Especially when you're screen sharing,
8:02
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it seems to.
8:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
8:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So a lot of the times I'm building both
8:08
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for.
8:10
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
desktop and mobile.
8:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's why on the back end to people,
8:14
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
8:15
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it looks crazy.
8:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
No,
8:17
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I know exactly what that looks like.
8:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
8:19
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I'm glad you're doing that.
8:22
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
8:23
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
8:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's all mobile stuff.
8:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So a lot of the time.
8:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It just kind of depends.
8:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'll like play with obviously the columns,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
spacing,
8:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
everything.
8:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Rarely do I use like any code or anything.
8:39
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I said,
8:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm not a coder.
8:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I don't know if that would be better for Keep.
8:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know.
8:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But mostly I'm just building it,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, with the tools that are right in Keep.
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S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean,
8:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know if there's anything like riveting to share about that.
9:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We do use like these forms occasionally,
9:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but a lot of the times we have like a different
9:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
form that Laura will create and
9:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then we'll just use it in one of the buttons as like a link.
9:19
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So
9:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know.
9:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's really all I have.
9:30
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's a lot,
9:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa.
9:31
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, this is a lot of work you put into these.
9:34
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
These look great.
9:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh,
9:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I agree.
9:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, I'm just like,
9:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
9:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just learning and I'm getting better with everyone that I do.
9:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then,
9:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, like the true desktop like form here isn't
9:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
necessarily always what it truly looks like on your phone.
9:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's where like sometimes I have some disconnect and I also have
9:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
a huge iMac.
10:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, sometimes seeing things,
10:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, oh, this looks so good.
10:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then other people will be like,
10:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this doesn't look great.
10:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's hard to,
10:08
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know,
10:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sometimes find the true,
10:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like what it truly looks like.
10:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
10:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah.
10:17
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So are there any frustrations that
10:22
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you're running into besides the content being on,
10:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which is huge?
10:24
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Is there,
10:26
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
are there any other frustrations as you kind of are building these?
10:31
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that you find you're running into?
10:33
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Um,
10:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would say no,
10:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, I feel like it's pretty easy and straightforward.
10:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Um,
10:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the only issue that I have,
10:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like I said, is really just when things decide to not save and,
10:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
or, and,
10:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
or delete.
10:50
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
10:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
10:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um,
10:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but other than that,
10:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, it's pretty easy.
10:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, coming from somebody that doesn't know how to build things.
11:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
11:01
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I mean,
11:02
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
being in graphics,
11:03
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, I'm sure,
11:04
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, cause the only,
11:05
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was thinking back on our call last week where I'm
11:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not sure if it was Hillary who said this,
11:14
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but the load speeds were,
11:16
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
were slow.
11:19
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so I know that can be with any page if it's graphic heavy,
11:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
11:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So, you know,
11:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if we're using more optimized size,
11:26
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like that's the only thing I could think of after I got off the call,
11:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I thought, I wonder what else we could do to help those page speeds if
11:34
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we can't do much besides,
11:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which I'm sure you know,
11:37
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, optimizing the images.
11:39
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
11:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we did that with one.
11:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Actually, this just actually came about.
11:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
was that like speed and so you know I'm I was just
11:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
first doing them like visually you know oh yeah this is great and
11:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then coming from people that actually knew what they're doing they're like oh this needs
12:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to be way more simplified um which
12:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I totally understand and and did help a little bit and I did
12:10
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do some of the imaging suggestions that that it said optimizing those
12:14
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
images um
12:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But I mean,
12:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like when I go on my lap,
12:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like phone,
12:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's not lingering.
12:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's not like super slow or anything.
12:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I hadn't ever had that issue.
12:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But now it's something like I'll,
12:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we'll be more aware of.
12:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sure.
12:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
12:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So.
12:36
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But yeah,
12:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
no, I mean, you're definitely doing the right thing by having the different sections for mobile and desktop.
12:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So yeah,
12:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that looks.
12:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, I mean,
12:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it is frustrating sometimes when you can't change certain things
12:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
within, you know,
12:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like I'm in desktop.
12:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So there's only like certain things that I would be able to sometimes do here.
12:56
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
12:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
As opposed like,
13:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'd have to go back into desktop,
13:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
13:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
on see it.
13:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
in mobile or whatever you know what I'm saying and then change it I do
13:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah it makes it like yeah I get that so
13:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
then I'm like oh wait is this actually on mobile or is this one on desktop so
13:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah sometimes it just can be a little like whiplashing I guess but
13:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but yeah no other than that like I said I think
13:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's pretty straightforward um so I
13:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
don't have like any complaints in that sense uh
13:40
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Can I add something?
13:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Please,
13:42
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah. One thing,
13:43
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa,
13:44
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that I think is going to be great.
13:46
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Now, you might not be doing the big builds here anymore.
13:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Maybe they'll be on a different platform.
13:51
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But when I saw that you had a form embedded
13:56
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
in there.
13:57
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Amber, we definitely need to get your eyes on how those forms are and how the contacts are
14:01
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
coming through, because sometimes I just see funky contacts coming through and I don't know why.
14:05
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And it is sort of like the weird names,
14:08
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like they've got lots of characters in their first name.
14:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Is that the kind of odd stuff you're seeing?
14:13
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, not not so much that,
14:15
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but like duplicate contacts suddenly.
14:17
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And like and then I didn't really you know,
14:19
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't look at these landing pages.
14:20
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Maybe some of this is maybe contacts are coming through in a different way.
14:24
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just want to make sure that.
14:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would talk to Hillary then because she sets up the forms.
14:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like on the back end.
14:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't do any of that.
14:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So what's your process?
14:35
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you bring in a form,
14:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa, that's already created?
14:37
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
What's your process when you're building a page with a form?
14:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's like rare.
14:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's like one out of 10 times,
14:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'd say.
14:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just for this one we did,
14:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think.
14:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Let me go to it.
14:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
14:52
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right there.
14:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I think.
14:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it was already like on the page,
14:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like the.
15:00
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
template or something um but hillary hillary does
15:04
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this part i don't i don't do it so like this is the kind of thing that amber
15:08
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
will tie all things together like what i'm seeing in contacts what you're seeing in
15:12
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
building and what hillary is doing like we just need somebody to tie these
15:16
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
types of things together so something that you did that hillary gave you doesn't
15:21
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
have an unintended effect for me and same with
15:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um
15:26
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I had said to Randy once about,
15:28
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh, I changed some of the tags.
15:30
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And she goes, oh, Alyssa built those tags.
15:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, okay.
15:32
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So again, like Amber will help us come up with like some
15:37
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
standard practices,
15:38
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like a base that we'll all use.
15:40
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So if I'm doing tagging,
15:42
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
naming, or you are Alyssa or Hillary's like - I'm not doing
15:47
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
tags other than that free downloaded
15:51
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
resource.
15:53
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's the only thing I do any sort of tagging
15:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
with.
15:58
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And that's once a month.
15:59
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So there's a few things that cross over,
16:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not a lot.
16:03
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I don't know how to build landing pages.
16:05
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think this looks great.
16:06
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't do any of this,
16:08
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know?
16:08
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So, but there's a couple of things that tie us all together and
16:13
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just to have a good base for all of us to be working from is one
16:17
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
of the things we need.
16:18
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just so things are,
16:18
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we all are working from the same place going forward in the ways we are,
16:22
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like from the same tree trunk.
16:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
16:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I love that.
16:27
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And Amber,
16:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
back to your question.
16:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think if it wasn't already there,
16:31
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like in the template,
16:32
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just take,
16:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
16:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
from content.
16:35
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I would drag it over.
16:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just pull in a new form.
16:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
16:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
16:39
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like, I wonder,
16:40
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
does it, are there selections on forms where it would audit?
16:44
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sometimes Alyssa,
16:45
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I see a new contact and it's got a company record.
16:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, why,
16:49
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
why does that have a company record?
16:51
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I create company records when I need them.
16:53
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like,
16:54
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
are there settings that would create company records?
16:56
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Are there settings that.
17:01
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I feel like there's just been a few funky things sometimes I'll see on a record.
17:04
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, where did that come from?
17:06
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so I just don't know if there's settings,
17:10
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like when you pull a form and,
17:11
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
17:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
who knows?
17:15
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They're minor,
17:17
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but, you know.
17:17
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
17:22
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, I just pulled in a blank form.
17:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But
17:31
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think you have to create stuff on the back end,
17:34
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the tag or whatever,
17:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
17:36
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Don't you?
17:37
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
17:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like.
17:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think if we've done it before,
17:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like she,
17:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
she would link it.
17:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't,
17:44
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know.
17:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
She would go in and apply the tag.
17:47
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think so.
17:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And if you scroll up a little bit,
17:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there's the URL.
17:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
17:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
For the button for the thanks page.
17:59
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I think that's how we've done it.
18:01
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But typically we're not using that.
18:04
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's,
18:05
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it's more so like you've already made one,
18:07
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Laura, you know,
18:09
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for like, let's say like teacher training or those
18:14
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
order forms,
18:15
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we would put in that button and they would go to that URL.
18:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
18:20
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't think,
18:21
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't think order forms are problem.
18:23
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's more like signing up for things type forms like here.
18:28
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Makes me wonder if there's best,
18:31
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
better practices for that kind of thing,
18:33
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just to protect what's coming through.
18:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sure.
18:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
18:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can look at that as well.
18:38
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
18:39
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's,
18:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that's really all I do.
18:45
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There's probably more I could be doing
18:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
on the,
18:50
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like I noticed this one does have like a
18:54
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Google analytics and pixel.
18:59
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I had never put that in,
19:01
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but maybe Hillary
19:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
did,
19:08
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
probably.
19:09
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We just discovered more pop -ups,
19:13
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but we haven't actually utilized it yet.
19:17
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I know how to create that.
19:18
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We
19:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do the different pages.
19:25
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This one would have a thank you page because you are signing up
19:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right then and there for the free training.
19:34
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that one is fine um isn't
19:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there like you can now upload your own fonts I
19:47
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
thought I maybe not um I
19:52
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
think you can yeah right here yeah but I don't
19:56
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think we're just gonna keep with the ones that are in there
20:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, I've seen it be,
20:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if they're not Google -friendly
20:06
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
fonts, then they end up looking kind of funky.
20:09
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I sometimes tell people,
20:11
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I always prefer if you can stick with the fonts that are in the native app.
20:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Otherwise, I feel like we run into this issue where we upload our
20:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
own.
20:20
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
depending on what people have installed or can you know google friendly then
20:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they end up looking kind of yucky so yeah always a big
20:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
fan of doing that if we don't have to sure so I
20:33
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
mean yeah I feel like I'm I mean the pages look great yeah
20:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I feel like yeah we're okay
20:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
on the building aspect but yeah I just didn't know if there was
20:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if you've had issues with people losing their stuff at all no I
20:50
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
actually I haven't heard of that so yeah that's crazy that's very unsettling
20:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah I mean I would be very frustrated you know like what's
20:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the source of that why tell me why and why us so often
21:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah that is not I wonder if because we're in there
21:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
so much
21:11
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
i don't yeah i may yeah and that might be something i'm curious i may text
21:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
ben on like hey this is a known issue um that
21:20
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
other people are having because yeah i have not heard of that and that is i
21:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
mean i could see possibly if you hadn't saved or published
21:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know like i've seen they're always been published but yeah i mean you can
21:32
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
still see it on the published page but then you go there and it's blank yeah like
21:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I wonder if...
21:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And you're in Chrome,
21:39
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
21:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like, I'm just trying to think of every...
21:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like, I've seen it where somebody's been in Firefox and it didn't show.
21:44
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And they said,
21:47
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh, you got to use Chrome.
21:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So this one,
21:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think...
21:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So here's one that...
21:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Let's see if it works.
21:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Or
22:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
maybe it decided to finally,
22:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
22:08
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
make it blank.
22:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But that's the one that...
22:13
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
uh deleted itself so then it's
22:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just blank when you come in here wow yeah
22:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that was not good work yeah so then
22:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
luckily I had a template so I was able to
22:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do the new one here
22:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know what this sounds crazy and this should not happen this way but
22:38
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just saw you do something so um
22:44
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, because you really can't.
22:46
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So clicking that X over on the left,
22:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I have seen people lose email content
22:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
in the email builder if they don't go through the next button.
22:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The next button.
23:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So over the top where it says next publish,
23:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
even though you may not necessarily want to publish it.
23:04
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I have seen in the campaign builder where I've troubleshooted and
23:08
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we found that if they went over and they set up their email,
23:11
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they built it,
23:12
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
looked beautiful.
23:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They didn't hit next.
23:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They hit the X and they lost all of it.
23:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's me.
23:19
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know.
23:20
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm not saying that it is.
23:23
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just trying to think that just came to my mind.
23:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I've seen that happen in the.
23:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
an editor for the campaign.
23:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just curious if...
23:33
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay. So you're saying that...
23:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's a design flaw.
23:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You know, it's...
23:39
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
100%.
23:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Who wouldn't think to click the X?
23:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
23:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
23:42
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's not you at all.
23:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just curious,
23:45
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
trying to figure out,
23:46
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because that is the most bizarre thing ever.
23:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
23:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
23:50
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was able to one day figure that out with another client that they were saying,
23:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're building the emails and then they're gone.
23:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm like, what?
23:56
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I watched them and they clicked the X and I'm like,
23:59
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
let's try not doing that the next time.
24:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then that fixed it.
24:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
24:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So always go through to publish,
24:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
even if you haven't like published anything or like made changes.
24:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
24:12
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just curious.
24:13
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Maybe it didn't like save.
24:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
24:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think for some reason in like in the system,
24:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if you hit X,
24:19
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it thinks you're canceling.
24:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
24:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well,
24:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what I don't get though,
24:23
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
is if you've put,
24:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but see, I don't know still because you're telling me you've published.
24:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that's,
24:29
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I don't know.
24:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It might be worth a try.
24:32
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But also it's like,
24:33
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we'll publish pages and then people will be like,
24:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this needs to be changed.
24:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This needs to be changed.
24:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So maybe it's like short circuiting out or something and it like deletes.
24:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it shouldn't but yeah right who knows right yeah but um yeah just curious
24:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
maybe just try doing that from now on just don't x just always hit
24:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
through it even if you're not gonna publish just go through the whole step process
24:56
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like that forward okay um because i have
25:00
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
seen that fix issues in the campaign builder okay perfect well
25:04
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
wouldn't that be nice now landing pages might be going to a different platform anyway
25:08
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but alissa you'll probably always be doing at least some capacity here maybe not
25:12
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the big yeah giant website size ones that they were
25:17
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
wanting but yeah yeah okay those
25:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
are ideal and then do you see how like
25:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So these were all people that probably did that X.
25:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You know what I'm saying?
25:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Exactly.
25:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Exactly.
25:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So then,
25:32
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
so they probably just went in to view it.
25:35
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
25:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then there's potential for it to maybe
25:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
delete because,
25:42
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh,
25:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I wonder if this is.
25:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
See, again,
25:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this could be maybe it deleted.
25:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know if somebody was on this one.
25:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Let's see.
25:55
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's another issue,
25:56
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa, if other people are.
25:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh, no, this was that one we knew about.
25:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sorry.
26:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
OK,
26:00
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that's the same one.
26:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We knew that one.
26:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But so for this fall jumpstart that we have already
26:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
done.
26:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's not like a big deal if it does disappear.
26:10
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But it's not just you.
26:12
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's also like if Trina's coming in to take a peek at things and fix things,
26:15
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
everyone needs to at least standard practice going
26:19
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
forward. Go through them.
26:21
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Don't ever hit the X.
26:23
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
26:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Or you could always press finish later,
26:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I guess, but it should still,
26:28
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like it's still moving forward.
26:32
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
26:32
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
26:34
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
26:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that will be something then because Trina will just come in and like.
26:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Cause you know,
26:39
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
she'll be, she'll send me little edits of like,
26:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
add an apostrophe here,
26:43
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
dah, dah, dah, here.
26:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so it's like, she can easily go in and make those tweaks.
26:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So we'll just have to make sure that she moves forward
26:52
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
with that.
26:53
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
26:55
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
26:55
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I would say that should be something best practice too,
26:58
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that, you know,
26:59
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
make sure the team's doing in the campaign builder,
27:01
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if they're building,
27:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
designing,
27:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, using the.
27:05
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You know, just text normally is an issue,
27:07
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but if you're using it like several blocks and you're actually putting graphics and building it,
27:11
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you should always hit the forward,
27:14
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not ever hit the X back.
27:15
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
27:16
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
27:17
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I do it all the time.
27:17
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I always hit X in campaign builder.
27:19
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I look at it and I'm done and I.
27:21
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
27:21
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it really,
27:22
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and maybe they've fixed it,
27:24
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but that is one that's,
27:25
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah,
27:26
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that's what we figured out last year when it was,
27:28
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they kept losing everything.
27:30
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So as we go forward,
27:32
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it doesn't.
27:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
27:36
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, Wade has super sleuthed that one,
27:37
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Amber. Yeah.
27:38
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sometimes it's just,
27:42
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
27:43
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I call into support and I'm like,
27:45
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh my gosh,
27:45
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I know more than you.
27:46
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Not to sound in an arrogant way,
27:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I get frustrated.
27:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You know, I'm just like,
27:49
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
nevermind.
27:50
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'll figure this out.
27:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
27:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh my gosh.
27:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Does it matter that
27:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we have like old pages like living here?
28:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like, is that ever going to be?
28:03
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like an issue I don't think so I mean I think the only time and that might be
28:07
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
a more of a Laura or a you know higher up question is do we
28:11
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
want them published where people can still find them and come in right like that might
28:15
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sure I mean from a system -wide it's not an issue but
28:19
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know do we want so how would you unpublish it then you
28:25
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
can't that's the best part
28:30
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Which is one of my frustrations.
28:32
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So what I have done in the past,
28:33
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which is crazy,
28:35
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I've made a copy to just save as reference.
28:39
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I have a couple of clients who are like,
28:41
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we just need that down.
28:42
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like we can't have that up anymore.
28:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
28:44
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So sometimes we've changed the URL.
28:46
S… Speaker 7 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Gotcha.
28:47
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Because you can change that.
28:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
28:49
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Or we just make a copy for reference and then delete it.
28:52
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
28:53
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
28:54
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know why you can,
28:56
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but yeah, it's annoying.
28:58
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
28:59
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that's my workaround though okay um
29:03
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but yeah from a system -wide standpoint you know for having that um
29:07
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you've got 91 that's not bad that's okay yeah
29:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think we just started well you can see last year was when
29:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we really kind of started diving into it and then sometimes we'll
29:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
create
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
pages for whatever we're doing and to track
29:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if we give it to like a partner and like you know the leads
29:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that they're bringing in or something like that so you can kind of see here that's why
29:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there was you know multiples of those ones um
29:38
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah but so
29:42
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
is there a way to determine like what kind of pages
29:46
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
should be done in keep versus which type should maybe be done elsewhere
29:52
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So do you guys build any stuff on your website?
29:54
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like what's kind of typical,
29:57
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, would you say the website is more just a...
30:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
pages with information.
30:01
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'll show you what's on our website.
30:03
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was trying to look at in there.
30:06
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it was yesterday.
30:07
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Cause I was like,
30:08
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
why, why don't we build these pages on our website?
30:11
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It would make so much sense.
30:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, it would help for SEO and branding.
30:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Exactly.
30:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But I don't,
30:17
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't think we have the capabilities in our landing pages.
30:21
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
30:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And it might be like,
30:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
here's WordPress,
30:25
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do you know?
30:25
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It is WordPress.
30:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it might just be a theme thing.
30:28
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like,
30:29
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
these are the pages that we,
30:31
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that I can build basically is like text and.
30:35
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
a logo and like put in an image.
30:37
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you know what the theme is that this is running?
30:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Laura,
30:41
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
do you know?
30:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well,
30:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and what about STS?
30:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So we have two WordPress sites.
30:47
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So one where more - STS has a lot more capabilities.
30:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
30:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So landing pages were being built on,
30:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we at one time were going to have a new like -
30:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
tier.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
More than just Gary dancing was going to have an umbrella called studio training solutions.
31:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that was going to be our new website with more forward facing
31:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
things.
31:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's a newer WordPress site than the one we currently have.
31:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And landing pages were getting built here that are accessed
31:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
from the other.
31:17
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
31:18
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there's a lot more capabilities on there.
31:20
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I would go back to building on there.
31:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But then everything started coming into Keep.
31:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Once we realized Keep had it,
31:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
so it's like, well, no,
31:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this is the easiest.
31:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's right here.
31:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
31:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
In theory.
31:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
In theory,
31:34
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it does.
31:35
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
31:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We are in the process of having a new website built for us.
31:39
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So we have two WordPress sites.
31:42
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't think so.
31:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, the member dashboard is now.
31:45
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The dashboard, but not our other one.
31:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The other one,
31:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the forward -facing one,
31:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
will be maybe in a year.
31:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So do I see Astra?
31:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Is that the builder?
31:54
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Making it bigger.
31:57
S… Speaker 7 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sorry.
31:58
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh, Elementor.
31:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Elementor is the new one.
32:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
In the newer website.
32:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The other website hasn't been touched because we knew eventually we were going to
32:08
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
redo it.
32:08
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'll sign into the other one.
32:10
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Hold on a second.
32:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It was built by a company in town and we weren't
32:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
given full access to everything.
32:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Who does that?
32:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That is not cool.
32:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Not cool,
32:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but yet they're...
32:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We were people who knew nothing about this,
32:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
so they're saying we're protecting you.
32:27
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
No,
32:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they're not.
32:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, yeah,
32:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they're also locking us out of things.
32:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That keeps me so mad.
32:32
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just get so mad at that.
32:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We've gone back and forth with it.
32:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can see it from the beginning,
32:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but now I want to change a picture when I want to change it.
32:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, you need to have full control.
32:42
S… Speaker 8 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
32:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you need to have full control over it.
32:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Which is why then we started with the STS site.
32:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We had another company build it where we did have full access.
32:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then now we're like pivoting again.
32:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like everything else is more of a bandaid.
32:56
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So this is the site that was built by a local company.
33:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This does not have Elementor in it.
33:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And this one is built on,
33:04
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm trying to see what the theme is.
33:06
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm not sure.
33:08
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't even know where you look.
33:11
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Theme settings?
33:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, let's look in theme settings.
33:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It doesn't look,
33:16
S… Speaker 8 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah,
33:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it looks almost like a custom.
33:20
S… Speaker 6 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
33:22
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there's definitely not as much capabilities.
33:24
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
33:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I almost feel like they built a custom.
33:32
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And this company that built this for us has been telling us for years.
33:36
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This is the builder on the page.
33:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This is an old,
33:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
old site.
33:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They would have updated us if we would have been willing to pay them.
33:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But instead,
33:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we've just been making it work.
33:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They've said
33:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
over and over.
33:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They're almost embarrassed.
33:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We still have a few clients that are working off these sites and we will still maintain
33:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
them.
33:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, they're like,
33:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you guys, this,
34:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this is not the way to be going.
34:02
S… Speaker 8 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
34:03
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
34:04
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Cause Elementor should have built
34:08
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
in kind of templates for you to build landing pages.
34:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
34:13
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And it doesn't.
34:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And you're in the other one,
34:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the Ella.
34:16
S… Speaker 8 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh yeah.
34:17
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This one,
34:18
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this one does.
34:20
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
34:20
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Elementor is a good theme.
34:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It should have.
34:23
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I know how to yeah.
34:27
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like,
34:28
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I know how to do that one.
34:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But this website is not being maintained by
34:34
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
anybody.
34:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Look at all of these updates.
34:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's a mess.
34:38
S… Speaker 8 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
34:38
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that would be the other thing is you'd want to make sure you've got a backup going.
34:41
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
No,
34:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this one.
34:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And that you've got somebody updating the plugins.
34:46
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
34:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and we don't have anybody maintaining this site for us.
34:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And we put a lot of work into this.
34:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Were you here, Alyssa, when we were doing all this with DM?
35:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
35:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
35:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like here,
35:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'll edit with Elementor or whatever.
35:05
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then you can go in and do all of
35:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that.
35:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Also, I would recommend what we do for our clients is we actually can't
35:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
think of what my web manager uses,
35:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but there's a third party backup and I would recommend it.
35:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can get the name for you if you want,
35:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because what we have found is just relying on the hosting company's
35:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
backup.
35:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They may say they do it,
35:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
35:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
weekly,
35:33
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
monthly, but lots of times they're only keeping one file.
35:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So they may do it,
35:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but they're overriding and you may not catch something for a week and
35:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they've overwritten that data.
35:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So we like to actually do our own backup and save
35:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it like on a third party,
35:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like Amazon storage or something.
35:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So we can easily restore.
35:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Cause if you're going to start building a lot on this,
35:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you'd definitely want to make sure,
35:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
35:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
if it went down or something.
36:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And maybe that's why we have limited capabilities because we
36:04
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
don't build anything on our site right now.
36:07
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like we don't have,
36:08
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like we don't have any of this and we're not coders.
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So it's kind of like we're stuck,
36:15
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but it would make sense to like marketing
36:20
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wise for stuff to come from our URL,
36:22
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but we don't.
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So I don't know.
36:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
36:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then,
36:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
36:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
with WordPress, you know,
36:32
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you're going to have more option for special coding.
36:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You're going to be able to make sure,
36:37
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you know, it's more responsive.
36:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You can edit the CSS.
36:40
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You can use the form code so we can make
36:44
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sure that those get updated.
36:45
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But yeah,
36:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
instead of going to another third party,
36:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it might be worth looking at doing this,
36:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, creating a couple of saved templates that you just pull in,
36:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa.
36:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um depending on what you're doing i mean landing page builders here's what
36:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
i always say i think they're great for like
37:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
quick, quick webinars or quick,
37:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
here's a checklist.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Here's your, give us your name and email where it's literally a hero image at the
37:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
top, a couple of bullets in a form,
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like simple type thing.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But when we're doing more of like a sales page or I'm not always,
37:18
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
or where's more,
37:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, and then you've got to build it for mobile and,
37:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
37:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you end up having more than just a couple sections.
37:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It seems like it might be better on your own.
37:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
37:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that might be an option that you guys can propose.
37:33
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And we do, and we do both.
37:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would say like,
37:36
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we do have kind of these like smaller,
37:39
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like free trainings,
37:40
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but then there are,
37:42
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you know, times where we have,
37:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I have all these sections and all this information and,
37:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
37:49
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it takes three days to build,
37:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
37:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which doesn't seem like a lot of time,
37:55
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I mean,
37:56
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah, that's a long time.
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So, and then there's edits and stuff.
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So it's just,
38:02
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it's like,
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what's the best process?
38:04
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But yeah,
38:05
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like, I don't know.
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And I'm not,
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I'm not the decision maker here.
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So it's just kind of like,
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tell me what to do.
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And then for sure.
38:14
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But yeah,
38:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that might be something,
38:18
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
38:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that you guys look at and then you could create.
38:21
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You know, you could just easily duplicate pages that you've done,
38:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
38:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and hopefully it doesn't take you three days because you can just easily
38:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
build it in here.
38:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
38:33
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Yeah.
38:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So if we end up coming back to using this STS site as
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a landing page builder,
38:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're going to need to get vision design back into.
38:43
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maintaining this site.
38:45
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We just all just kind of pretend it doesn't exist.
38:47
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There's a couple of pages we need on here,
38:49
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but we're all like,
38:50
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what about STS?
38:51
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Because there's,
38:53
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there's products on STS.
38:55
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We were using it as a forward facing marketing tool.
38:59
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
put a ton of products in there at prices.
39:02
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So WooCommerce.
39:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I think I thought I saw WooCom.
39:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah. Yeah.
39:06
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think this site's been the biggest culprit of problems
39:10
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I've been having and keep with contacts.
39:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So probably if those plugins aren't insecure.
39:17
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And we set it up where if you were a member of ours,
39:20
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we gave you free access.
39:21
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So member contacts,
39:23
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which are the ones I'm trying to protect so they don't get edited or changed or
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altered in some way that's going to break their access,
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S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, close the gate on them.
39:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They're coming to the STS site and buying things for zero dollars.
39:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They just sink their resources and it's creating all these problems.
39:41
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And we couldn't find the source of it.
39:44
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And I never did talk with the designers of this site
39:48
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and it's all kind of quieted down now.
39:51
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But just recently it came up again just in our team,
39:54
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like what is happening with this site?
39:56
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It does have a better page builder for sure.
40:00
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
our website is old and clunky and we're just putting band
40:04
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-aids on and trying to get forward as ensemble eventually will give
40:09
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
us what we need but so yeah we're working off of two websites plus
40:13
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
keep so and then there are also a couple alissa are you able to
40:18
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
show the options that hillary wanted us to share with oh yeah let's look at those
40:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for for a minute let's see i'm gonna stop my share for a
40:26
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
second um
40:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I might have it up in Slack too.
40:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think I closed Slack.
40:33
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'll look it back up.
40:34
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
41:04
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
One was called You Bounce.
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S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
41:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yep.
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And then farmer .com.
41:14
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I haven't heard of farmer.
41:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I've worked with You Bounce.
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S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's not bad.
41:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We would just,
41:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm just going to light it.
41:20
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay. So not You Bounce.
41:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Unbounce.
41:23
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh, Unbounce.
41:24
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sorry.
41:25
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's okay.
41:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was like, wait a second.
41:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Unbounce.
41:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Unbounce.
41:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
41:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then.
41:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Or maybe it's called Framer,
41:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not Farmer.
41:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
41:34
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Framer.
41:35
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I was like,
41:36
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I haven't heard of Farmer.
41:37
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's a funny name.
41:37
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Framer and then Card.
41:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I haven't heard of Card.
41:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
B -A -R -R -D.
41:44
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Those two were suggested by our
41:49
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other sister.
41:50
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I don't know.
41:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you call it sister company?
41:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
What's Ensemble?
41:53
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Our parent.
41:54
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Our parent.
41:55
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
There we go.
41:56
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes, our parent company.
41:57
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Hillary asked if we could get.
42:01
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I would ask her exactly so we can give her opinion on which would
42:05
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work best with keep.
42:06
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It sounds like they were did it.
42:09
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's all in one place.
42:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Here are the two that the ensemble marketing people recommended card.
42:14
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Very simple pages live pages live in minute in
42:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
minutes.
42:19
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Best for clean,
42:20
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
no frills landing pages.
42:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'll copy the.
42:24
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
OK.
42:24
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then.
42:25
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So if
42:30
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that's what ensemble recommends.
42:34
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm wondering if you have any recommendations in terms of
42:38
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
with the keep lens on it.
42:40
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So
42:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I know,
42:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
well,
42:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
so we've done a lot with click funnels and lead pages and.
42:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm not a fan of ClickFunnels.
42:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I wouldn't recommend that.
43:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The integration of trying to make a form look good,
43:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because again,
43:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you don't want to use the API.
43:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's terrible.
43:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like the form itself,
43:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like you can't style it.
43:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So you've got like this clunky code from Keep.
43:12
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And so your pages end up looking yucky.
43:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Same thing we've been running into with lead pages.
43:18
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It used to work really well.
43:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So Unbounce,
43:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think,
43:24
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is one,
43:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I know that you mentioned that one,
43:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I don't see that that they narrowed it down to that one.
43:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That one actually is pretty good.
43:33
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
43:36
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that was one they mentioned because somebody
43:40
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
had used it before,
43:42
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but then they went into these other two.
43:45
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But if you're saying that this Unbounce is better,
43:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, I think they're open.
43:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would want to just make sure,
43:53
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because again,
43:57
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and this might change their thought too,
44:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
44:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Because we don't necessarily want to look for something that integrates
44:05
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with keep.
44:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And I think that's probably what everybody went into with that lens
44:10
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on. But the problem is,
44:11
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like I said,
44:12
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then they don't get the...
44:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They'll come if they're a brand new contact,
44:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they'll come in.
44:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
OK, but if they've been on the list and they unsubscribed and then
44:22
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they want to come back,
44:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which surprisingly a lot of people do,
44:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you think of that probably doesn't happen very often.
44:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, we just identified like 100 and something,
44:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, with this one client last month alone who
44:33
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a couple of years ago came in and weren't ready,
44:36
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opted out,
44:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
came back through an ad and they're not getting anything.
44:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We really want it to be something that's going to allow us to bring in our source
44:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
code.
44:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We're really not looking for something that integrates necessarily with
44:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Keep. That's not really what we want.
44:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We want something that's going to allow us to bring in our own form code
44:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
into the page builder.
45:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's kind of a different mindset.
45:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that would be what I would say we would want to check with
45:07
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
card and framer is maybe not necessarily
45:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
does it integrate with key,
45:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but can we bring in our code?
45:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like is there a HTML widget that we could bring into the
45:20
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page and put the code in would be what I would say we would want to look at.
45:26
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If that makes sense.
45:27
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So what we want is we want to be able to have like in the builder,
45:30
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an HTML widget.
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And that way we bring that into the page where we want the
45:36
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form and then we bring in HTML code from the form and keep.
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S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's what we,
45:42
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that's what we want.
45:42
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Which makes more sense probably to
45:47
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Hillary than me for sure.
45:48
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
45:49
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
This is the kind of,
45:51
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we got to just pass that along.
45:52
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
45:53
S… Speaker 5 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
45:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And it just depends like what.
45:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
for the lead gen and you know the sales and more
46:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
of the marketing like if like what makes sense to them because I'm fine
46:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
building it wherever um but yeah
46:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we just don't want to like run into these issues um I
46:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
don't know what's what's the right and
46:21
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sometimes there's not necessarily a right or wrong it's just I guess looking at what
46:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
are like the what are the must -haves like right for everybody it can be different but
46:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what
46:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
What is like your,
46:32
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, must have,
46:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what it would be nice to have.
46:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, I think for sure it needs to be able to have that,
46:38
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that integration for HTML where we could connect it.
46:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Something easy for you to do,
46:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, right.
46:45
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I'm sure you don't need to spend three days building a page,
46:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, something that's easily duplicated.
46:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You can easily edit.
46:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's got good speeds that you can edit the CSS.
46:54
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, still,
46:55
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would still propose your own website.
46:58
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You know, if you've got Elementor and you've got those.
47:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know those templates and I think we do a lot of work with
47:06
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Divi theme I know Divi has child themes I think Elementor might too
47:10
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
where you can actually buy what's called a child theme in
47:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
WordPress and it's like pre -built
47:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
templates so there you can somebody like you can buy a template that you import
47:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um as a child theme and then it's already pre -done for you so kind of
47:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like these these landing pages but shortens your kind of build alissa um
47:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
so i mean that's also an option too right the
47:35
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
good thing about having it on your own site you know if i'm just playing devil's
47:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
advocate going back and forth is then you own it everything's there it's
47:44
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not all in these different places um
47:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think where we like to use these third -party sites is a
47:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
lot of times they're easier.
47:54
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It depends on the website.
47:55
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's like a lot of people,
47:56
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
kind of like you with your old site,
47:58
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
their site isn't able to do it or it takes too long or it doesn't look good so they want
48:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to go to one of these.
48:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it's not that there's a right
48:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
or wrong.
48:08
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it's looking long -term what makes the most sense if
48:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you're going to make a switch,
48:14
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
48:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like what's the best?
48:18
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So are you saying Elementor comes up against these other
48:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
three?
48:23
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Mm -hmm.
48:24
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Ah.
48:25
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
48:27
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because you can just build them in your own site.
48:28
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
48:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I wonder if they even considered that,
48:32
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what we already have on that site.
48:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They probably thought about it,
48:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but since that site...
48:41
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes, it's the updated WordPress,
48:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but we're not pushing people to that site because technically
48:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
we're not really doing much with the umbrella,
48:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which is called Studio Training Solutions,
48:52
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
powered by more than just great dancing.
48:55
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But couldn't we use it just for the pages like we are for the coaching?
48:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We could, but then it would still have...
49:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I guess I'd have to look at the URL situation.
49:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I haven't worked in there.
49:06
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
49:07
S… Speaker 4 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
what happens,
49:07
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa, when you go from the member dashboard to the coaching call page,
49:11
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which is on the other site?
49:12
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Does the URL change?
49:14
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm sorry,
49:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
say that again?
49:17
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So like if you're on the member dashboard to book a coaching call and
49:21
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that page is built on the other site,
49:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
does the URL change or does it still look like they're within
49:28
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
our dashboard,
49:29
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
our original website?
49:32
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like because that's just we're just using sts for a page is it is it
49:36
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
one -on -one or is it team coaching uh one -on -one and
49:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
oh yeah it says studio training solutions more than just great dancing certified
49:46
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
coaches it changes and see but i mean people aren't really going to
49:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
be looking at that i guess but it messes up tracking
49:55
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
i would assume yeah we're kind
49:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
of but what
50:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
But what happens if you're using the page on,
50:02
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, it's changing the URL on Keep as well,
50:05
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right? Well,
50:07
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah. That's the thing that I was thinking.
50:10
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You're using a landing page from Keep instead of doing
50:14
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the Elementor ones.
50:15
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like what if we were going back to that STS site that is still there?
50:19
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We just would need to get somebody managing it again.
50:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Exactly.
50:24
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Utilizing it for pages there.
50:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Exactly.
50:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, that would be my suggestion to recommend as well.
50:31
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
50:32
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because there's cleaner ways
50:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to build in there.
50:38
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then it's not another third -party software that you have to pay for every month.
50:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
They own it.
50:42
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You own it all.
50:43
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You have full control.
50:44
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And maybe there's,
50:46
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like you said, there's something we could purchase themes to beef
50:51
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that up to what we need.
50:52
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's a good suggestion.
50:56
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We'll have to take that one back.
50:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
50:58
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And keep in mind too.
50:59
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So.
51:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh,
51:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it says Astrid child.
51:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Is that what you're talking about?
51:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
51:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So it says your theme Astrid.
51:07
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And that's the one on the other site,
51:09
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right? Yes.
51:10
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That's the studio.
51:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
51:12
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't think that one has as much,
51:14
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but it's great that Elementor is on that other one because you do have a lot
51:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
more options with Elementor.
51:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
on the s it was the coders on our parent company
51:27
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
can also come in they can go in they can edit the css they can yes they
51:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
can help to their heart's content whatever they want to change you have full control
51:35
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
i mean honestly alissa i wonder if they're even thinking
51:39
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
about it none of us talked about us yes it's not in our brain at all it's
51:43
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not in my brain
51:44
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, I wonder if it's just kind of fallen off to the side and it
51:48
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
wasn't given a look like,
51:49
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
hey, we also have this.
51:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
51:54
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Maybe we had a couple of two big discoveries today,
51:57
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa.
51:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Wow.
51:59
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
The don't,
51:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the X button.
52:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Build on the site you already have.
52:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well,
52:05
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and real quick before we drop,
52:07
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just kind of thinking this through a little bit more.
52:10
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So where are we using these land?
52:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Because you're talking about the domain.
52:14
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And so we're using them in Facebook,
52:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
right?
52:17
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Meta ads,
52:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which I don't know that it shows the URL anyway in your ad.
52:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it just.
52:23
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
links to it so I don't know it would be a problem there you're
52:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
using keep right now which has horribly ugly links so
52:33
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean this you know so I don't know that it would be and
52:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
so tell me how so you've got that how else are you where are you giving links out like when you're
52:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sending things like emails I think like for marketing to our
52:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
email list and they're just linking to a keep page right now which
52:52
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
would just go to some random
52:56
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
url looking thing anyway right yep so it's mostly like social media
53:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
um meta ads um
53:05
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
because i was gonna say like if you're doing big big sales pages or big branded
53:10
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
things you could also do kind of like a vanity url where you know
53:14
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it to say,
53:15
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
go daddy, you know,
53:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you buy, you know,
53:17
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
more than just great dance event .com.
53:19
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then you have that forward,
53:21
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
53:22
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and just have it,
53:23
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can't think of it.
53:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Which I think we've done for some pages.
53:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And there's a setting in there where you could just,
53:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it's called masking the URL.
53:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So that stays in the browser and then they would never see STS.
53:34
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So, I mean, there's some things that you could do for some more branded type stuff if,
53:37
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, that was a concern,
53:39
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but definitely something I would,
53:40
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I would bring up.
53:44
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
doing it on your own site i think the concern
53:47
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, I can't speak to them.
53:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I guess for me building on STS would be like if they start clicking
53:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
off of that and going into what STS is and
53:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
all that stuff is old.
53:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean,
54:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
not old.
54:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's like it looks OK,
54:02
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but it's obsolete,
54:03
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
though. But it's not showing like who more than just great dancing is
54:08
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and which is the route we've decided to take is like that.
54:11
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's kind of like what we want to be as our big umbrella now.
54:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
54:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So there'd probably be a little cleanup that have to be involved.
54:19
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like take some pages down,
54:20
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
make them draft and just have a very simple homepage.
54:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
54:25
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So,
54:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which,
54:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah,
54:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm fine with.
54:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'd have to go back in and train myself a little bit,
54:33
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but, but I do remember that there,
54:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
there's a lot better cleaner.
54:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
ways of going about that and if we are making these huge
54:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
robust pages which sometimes we are uh
54:47
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I think it would I think you'll have more control right like you're gonna you
54:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Alyssa are gonna be able to have more control over building it than being stuck to a
54:56
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
builder where you're limited right okay just
55:00
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
an idea yeah no I definitely think this
55:04
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
is really good just talking through it and um
55:08
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We'll definitely go back and talk to the team and then
55:12
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
they'll talk to their peeps,
55:14
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
their higher ups and decide what everybody wants
55:18
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to do.
55:19
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Sounds good.
55:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
55:23
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well,
55:24
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
this is helpful.
55:25
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Anything else before we wrap?
55:26
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then Laura,
55:27
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
maybe you and I can connect next week and just kind of go over like,
55:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know,
55:32
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
where we're at,
55:33
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, obviously I'm still kind of looking through things in the back end.
55:37
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
taking these calls and putting action items in place,
55:40
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but happy to,
55:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, connect next week and see just where we're at with everything.
55:44
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just kind of keep,
55:47
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
keep moving forward.
55:48
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah,
55:49
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that sounds good.
55:49
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you,
55:50
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
are you able to send a recording of this?
55:53
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
55:54
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then I'll pass this along to Hillary as well,
55:57
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just to,
55:58
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean,
56:00
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
listen, I can understand,
56:01
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I think it'll.
56:03
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
It's a, we're not trying to explain.
56:05
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
56:05
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right.
56:06
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Not happy to say laying it perfect correctly.
56:09
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
56:10
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
56:10
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We all know how that goes.
56:11
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Right. Yeah.
56:12
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
She said,
56:13
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
and then the radio would be like,
56:15
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Oh, but,
56:15
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but, but, Oh,
56:16
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I don't know about that.
56:19
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I can't answer those things,
56:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but yeah,
56:21
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
no, I can do that for sure.
56:23
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay. That'd be perfect.
56:24
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
All right.
56:25
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then, yes,
56:25
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
let's get some time on the calendar for next week.
56:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
And then do you think that,
56:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
sorry, it's like,
56:29
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
no, that's okay.
56:30
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Do you think there's like anything else?
56:33
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like I should know about landing pages off
56:37
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
the top of your head?
56:38
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Or do you think?
56:42
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
56:42
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I mean, I think the biggest thing is,
56:44
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, the images and optimizing,
56:46
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like that's the biggest thing I see is that,
56:48
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, sometimes we use too many images or too large,
56:51
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
too big of large files and that really slows down keep.
56:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
56:55
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Just,
56:57
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, and I'm going to go back through it.
56:59
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just kind of wanted to first see kind of like your process,
57:03
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I may try to view a few pages and just kind of get a better idea,
57:07
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but I definitely don't.
57:10
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I want to see how long they are because,
57:12
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
again, I don't think it's good to do long pages
57:16
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
on there.
57:17
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Like their landing pages,
57:20
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I just think they should be short,
57:23
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
shorter if we're using TV.
57:26
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
What is, like,
57:27
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
considered short to you?
57:28
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah, to me it's,
57:29
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like, the hero,
57:30
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
like the top banner,
57:31
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
maybe a few bullets,
57:33
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
a form.
57:35
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
about us that's it right kind of like the templates that they give exactly
57:40
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
okay so i feel like if we're doing a whole lot outside of like their recommended
57:44
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
template type of thing that's where we start to get slowness things get
57:49
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
kind of funky like it just it really wasn't built for
57:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
that it was more built for like quick you know people who don't really
57:57
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
have much i don't want to say any
58:01
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
other options that's not the right word but
58:04
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
just quick,
58:05
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
quick, quick opt -in things,
58:07
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know?
58:07
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So I think there's a lot of things that you're trying to do,
58:10
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
which is great,
58:11
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
but maybe you're being limited also.
58:15
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
58:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
58:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That makes sense.
58:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
yeah because yeah I think now that we've gotten into it maybe we have are
58:24
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
taking it and using it way more I think so that's my first
58:28
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
thought yeah because yeah in the beginning we're like oh this is great this is so
58:32
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
easy and then now as let's put that there let's put that there and
58:36
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
it keeps getting longer and longer and it's just it that's probably why you
58:41
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
know the parent company is saying wow this is loading slow because now we're starting to
58:45
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
use them more than honestly they were designed for okay
58:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Okay.
58:49
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
That makes sense.
58:50
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Groovy.
58:51
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Cool.
58:53
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Well, it's nice to meet you.
58:53
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
58:54
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Nice to meet you.
58:55
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Thank you so much for chatting with us and trying
58:59
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
to get this.
59:00
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I'm sure we'll talk again.
59:01
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Better.
59:02
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes.
59:02
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yes, definitely.
59:03
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We've got such a great team here.
59:05
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
So many people doing,
59:06
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
you know, their own little team.
59:08
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Yeah.
59:09
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We're so lucky.
59:10
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
We're so lucky.
59:11
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You are great people.
59:13
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
I love it.
59:14
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Thanks, Alyssa.
59:15
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
You're the best.
59:16
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
All right. Thank you so much.
59:17
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Thank you both.
59:18
S… Speaker 2 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Laura, I'll send you the recording and sometimes.
59:20
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Perfect.
59:21
S… Speaker 3 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
All right.
59:22
S… Speaker 1 (GMT20260507-190433_Recording)
Bye.

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