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When my dad passed away,

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we were leaving the gravesite and my grandmother,

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she just was looking out the window and said,

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I can only imagine what Bub's seeing right now.

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It really stuck with me because I was so

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just eaten up by missing him that in some way it was therapeutic

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to consume myself with what he was seeing versus him not being around.

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If I had a pen in my hand,

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I would always doodle,

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I can only imagine,

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literally in everything I'd get my hands on.

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If I'm on hold on the phone,

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I would be writing down on anything.

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I just became obsessed with this investment in heaven,

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so to speak,

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you know, that he was now a far greater part of my future than he was my past.

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We needed one last song,

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and so they were like,

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hey, tomorrow's our last day in the studio.

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We've got to get this song done.

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And so I set up all night,

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literally looking for a blank page to start writing anything on.

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Couldn't find one.

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Every page had,

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I can imagine,

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written in it.

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It was one of those moments where I was like,

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okay, I get it.

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Okay.

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But

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I was just so excited because I'd never had anything like that come that quickly.

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So we went in the studio the next day,

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and we unpacked everything and recorded the song,

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like maybe two takes.

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And

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so for about a year,

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we never sang it live.

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Then we were here to camp,

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and the speaker was like,

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hey, can you do that Imagine song?

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We're like, we don't know it.

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Like, we've never played it.

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So while he's preaching,

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we're behind the curtain,

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quietly trying to learn our own song that we'd never played live.

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And when the curtain opened,

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we played it,

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and the spotlight's hitting us in the face.

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Couldn't see or hear anything.

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When we finished,

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there was no applause,

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nothing.

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It was dead quiet.

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And I remember looking at each other going,

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this was the worst decision ever.

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And then when the lights came up,

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like, most of the crowd was at the altar on their knees crying.

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And we're like, what is happening?

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And I guess we've played it every night since.

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People were asking,

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like, why did this song do what it did?

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Why do you think it reached so many people?

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And I'm like, man, I think ultimately most people can agree that they hope that

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there's something better after this.

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If they've lost a loved one,

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they hope that they're in a better place.

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And I think people embrace that hope.

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After Imagine kind of ran its course in Christian music,

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there was a top 40 station.

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They were doing this truth or dare kind of shock jock,

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kind of Howard Stern kind of morning thing.

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And they were doing truth or dare,

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which was supposed to be like this vulgar,

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perverted thing they were doing in the air.

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And someone called and dared them to play Imagine.

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Their own fans started dogging them like,

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oh, it's something you won't do.

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So they got a copy of it and they played it.

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All of a sudden,

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the phone started ringing off the hook.

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It became like the number one song on their station for like six months.

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Well, in that,

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one of the stories they told us was there was a lady that was about to take her life.

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She had decided to run her car off a bridge.

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She's listening to Wild 100,

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Imagine plays,

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and she gets incredibly angry at the song.

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So much so that she's decided to put that on hold and

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drive to the station to,

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like,

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how dare you play this song.

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It was totally messing up her plan.

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I don't know.

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In traffic,

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I want to say she saw a billboard of a Christian radio station and knew maybe they could

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explain why this dumb song is being played.

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Called them because the mainstream wouldn't answer.

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Lines were busy because people kept calling in.

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So she called the stage she could find.

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Why does this song exist?

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How dare you?

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Why would you have them play the mainstream like it works that way?

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And they're like, we don't know what you're talking about.

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And then they kept talking.

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Are you okay?

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Are you okay?

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And then she's like,

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I just don't understand it.

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And then they eventually led her to Christ.

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that by the time she did get to the mainstream station,

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she hugged the guy's neck in tears and said,

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if you wouldn't have played that,

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I wouldn't be here.

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We

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had a chance to play at Fort Hood in Texas for the troops that caught Saddam Hussein were coming home.

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And it wasn't just them,

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there were several soldiers coming home.

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And so we played and this one officer came up and just embraced us who could barely

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understand what he was saying because he was crying so hard.

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He said he lost his whole company.

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He's the only one to survive.

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And he said he spent the whole night with a loaded gun and imagined

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playing through a Walkman,

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contemplating whether to take his life or not.

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And he goes, I decided it wasn't worth it.

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To be asked to play at Fort Hood,

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I'm freaking out.

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Like these are like real heroes.

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And the last thing he said was,

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you're the biggest hero in my life to us.

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I remember just crying,

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going, no, no,

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no, no, no, no.

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I'm like,

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I'm out of shape.

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I like Doritos a lot.

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I was like,

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you're the hero.

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It was really overwhelming to have him say that to us and that

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the song kept him from doing something crazy like that.

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It was, yeah.

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I've

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been consumed with heaven for a very long time.

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I don't know how it all works.

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Do I think that we're going to cross over Jordan and there's some streets of gold and

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stuff?

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Honestly,

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probably not.

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I tend to believe that whatever John was seeing in

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Revelation, he was describing it with the most precious things he could possibly

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comprehend,

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whether it was gold or whatever he's seeing,

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there's no other words to put it than it looked like this.

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And the tools I'm given to describe things,

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he's describing it as best he knows how.

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In Ephesians,

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it says we've already been placed in the heavenlies,

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which means somehow in past tense,

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part of me is already there.

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I don't know if I ever just assumed as he's going to place us

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in the heavenlies or whatever,

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but the fact that we're already there,

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that if part of heaven is no more separation from Christ,

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then in a way...

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Heaven's kind of begun.

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There are parts that we don't see clearly,

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but at the same time,

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we're no longer separated from Christ.

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And I'm not trying to say there's not a place where our loved ones are.

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I believe all that takes place.

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But the fact that nothing can take us out of the hand of Christ,

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that nothing's going to change,

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even on our worst day,

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we know what our outcome is as one of His.

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You know,

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that's a pretty awesome thought that in a way it kind of has begun.

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Heaven is kind of here in a sense.

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Corinthians 2 .2 says,

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I've determined to know nothing while I'm with you except Jesus Christ and crucified.

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And I can't tell you how many times I've said that while getting

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beaten, while being abused,

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and the things I've gone through,

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it's almost like you just kind of zone out and just keep clinging to that.

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This is what it's about.

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It's still kind of the hope I hold on with heaven is that no

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matter what gets to me,

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it's like I'm determined to know nothing but this.

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Whether it's thinking about my dad and what's to come and talking about heaven or whatever I'm going through now,

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I'm determined to know nothing but Christ and Him crucified.

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If

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there are people that are watching this or whatever and thinking,

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man, I'm intrigued by this,

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but uncertain.

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And the Bible says if we believe and confess our sins and believe,

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then we can be saved.

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I think there's a moment when you just

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choose to believe,

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God, this is real.

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And I want you to be a part of this story and who I am.

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And even if we don't get the words right.

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I think God's faithful to see the heart and to do His part,

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so to speak.

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A

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day without having faith that there's something after this just kind of feels like

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a wasted day to me.

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And so it's just what I choose to believe.

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If it turns out that I'm wrong,

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then a better life has been lived because of it.

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I know what I was before and I know what I am now.

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I know what my dad was before,

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you know, encountering Christ.

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You can argue the semantics of it all and if God exists or whatever,

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but the thing that can't be argued is what he's done in my life.

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And it's probably the most real thing I've ever seen.

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I

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think the idea of us believing that we're a part of something bigger improves

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our quality of life here.

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Just believing it's not just about us.

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I think the idea that it doesn't just end and we're put in the ground and that's

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it. How does that not impact the way you live now?

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I think deep down we want to believe there's something more.

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I have to believe that.

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Knowing that I'm a part of something bigger,

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knowing that it's worthwhile to get out of bed in the morning and tell people about

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the gospel rather than just some songs that have

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no meaning or point and things eternal just seems kind of

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empty to me.

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I love

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the idea of having hope and embracing the fact that I'm

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going to see my dad again.

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